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Old 03-04-2019, 05:40 PM
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Default Roger Clemens help pls

Hi all. Is this a good Roger Clemens? I like the CY7 inscription. Thanks for your help. Casey
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Old 03-04-2019, 05:45 PM
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Or this one too?
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Old 03-04-2019, 06:11 PM
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They both look good to me.
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Old 03-05-2019, 10:42 AM
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The China Grove ball is most certainly a forgery, and the other ball is highly suspect, IMHO
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Clemens' signature has changed drastically over the years. Here is the OPs China ball compared to a certified ball. Not much difference. For me, I not only look at the signature, but the inscription as well. The inscriptions are pretty much a match too. Besides, if one were going to forge a Clemens ball, why would they use a China ball?
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Another Clemens ball with a very similar signature to the China ball

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Roger-Cleme...p2047675.l2557
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Old 03-05-2019, 11:44 AM
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Clemens' signature has changed drastically over the years. Here is the OPs China ball compared to a certified ball. Not much difference. For me, I not only look at the signature, but the inscription as well. The inscriptions are pretty much a match too. Besides, if one were going to forge a Clemens ball, why would they use a China ball?
I have no opinion on if it is legit or not. Those 2 autos look nothing alike to me.
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Old 03-05-2019, 04:09 PM
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I have no opinion on if it is legit or not. Those 2 autos look nothing alike to me.
I agree it's a nice smoke screen and very cheap, as compared to faking a real ball, THAT's why the China Ball woe OO O.
I stand by my original assessment

Talking bout the China Ball, O o o, It a fake ,whoh O china ball.

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Old 03-05-2019, 04:17 PM
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FWIW.... I got these IP about four years ago. I have some others I got a few years prior but Ill need to dig up the pics

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FWIW.... I got these IP about four years ago. I have some others I got a few years prior but Ill need to dig up the pics

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Very nice! I guess you left the China Balls at home? Imagine that.
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Old 03-05-2019, 05:21 PM
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I agree it's a nice smoke screen and very cheap, as compared to faking a real ball, THAT's why the China Ball woe OO O.
I stand by my original assessment

Talking bout the China Ball, O o o, It a fake ,whoh O china ball.
Rogers signature has changed alot over the years from what I seen. The earlier the example the more readable it was. I like them both!
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Good God! It doesn't matter if the China ball is legit or not, it's already starting to fade. In 2 years the sig will be completely gone.

And yes, forgers love the crappy cheap balls.
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Old 03-06-2019, 09:17 AM
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Never knew I would have so much grief asking about a Roger Clemens auto. I guess I will just have to move on - maybe this Authentic Clemens signed Astro's rally monkey would be better. Ha, ha
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Never knew I would have so much grief asking about a Roger Clemens auto. I guess I will just have to move on - maybe this Authentic Clemens signed Astro's rally monkey would be better. Ha, ha
That is a very cool autographed item.

Here is the front/back of a custom Clemens card. The front has a real sweet spot auto cut from a ball. The back is a exact replica of a real Clemens Auto. This are my favorite style of his autograph.
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Old 03-06-2019, 01:55 PM
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Authentic? This may be sorta between his styles while with the Red Sox? Not a China ball :-)
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If it helps the sweet spot auto in the custom card dates from 89-91 by the other 3 autos on the ball. I got this t-shirt from Rogers foundation 2 years ago.
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Just bought this one at good price. Hope it is good? If not, I didn't loose much. Thoughts?
It appears to be an earlier signature. The guy has 7CY.....I had to have at least one of the "Rocket's" signed ball.
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Just bought this one at good price. Hope it is good? If not, I didn't loose much. Thoughts?
It appears to be an earlier signature. The guy has 7CY.....I had to have at least one of the "Rocket's" signed ball.
Looks like the version I have in the custom card.

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Here's an early Clemens auto...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/ROGER-CLEME...8AAOSwcaZcgbrp
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Wow. What a change.
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