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Old 02-19-2022, 03:53 PM
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Default Seeking help with identifying players on a WWII photo

Hi all,

Here's a photo I recently picked up of a team that played in Hawaii during WWII. I've looked at all the rosters I can find online, and this appears to be a team that represented the U.S. Navy's Aiea Barracks, although I can find no roster that matches it completely I suppose players got shuffled around a lot because a war was going on.

I'm seeking second opinions on all those who I have attempted to identify, and any other IDs that anybody can come up with. So far, I believe I see Bill Dickey, Johnny Vander Meer, Bob Lemon, Fred Hutchinson, Whitey Platt and Billy Herman. I realize it's possible that who I have ID'd as Bill could be his brother, George. It appears these guys were all in the Navy and in Hawaii during '44 and/or '45.

Any and all help is very much appreciated,

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Old 02-19-2022, 04:00 PM
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Here's the rest, up close ...
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Old 02-19-2022, 04:11 PM
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I agree with the Bob Lemon ID, first group of three pic, middle.

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Old 02-19-2022, 06:01 PM
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Hi Chris,
I might be able to help. Take a look
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Looks like Fred Hutchenson in the second photo down on the left.
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Old 02-19-2022, 10:00 PM
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I just learned that Lemon and Hutchinson were elsewhere in 1944, so this has to be from 1945. It turns out that Pellegrini and McCosky played there in 1944, but not in 1945. I also found this, which mentions four of the guys I believe I see in the photo.
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Agree with Hutchinson. Bill Dickey on the left in first photo with two guys.
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The very first, top left player in second post looks like Hajduk.
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I think the second group of three, middle guy, is Max Patkin, the clown prince of Baseball
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Max supposedly played on the '44 team, but I'm not sure about the '45 team. When I looked for Max in this photo, I picked the same guy you did. But I'm not certain it's him.

One guy I'm pretty sure about is Billy Herman, who's pictured here. I somehow neglected posting this photo earlier. The guy next to him looks a bit like Vander Meer to me, but I can't be sure. I'm hoping Scott gets a chance to see this one I would trust his opinion on Vandy ...

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Max supposedly played on the '44 team, but I'm not sure about the '45 team. When I looked for Max in this photo, I picked the same guy you did. But I'm not certain it's him.

One guy I'm pretty sure about is Billy Herman, who's pictured here. I somehow neglected posting this photo earlier. The guy next to him looks a bit like Vander Meer to me, but I can't be sure. I'm hoping Scott gets a chance to see this one I would trust his opinion on Vandy ...
Definitely not Vandy in the photo.
Also Vandy was in Guam in '45.
I hope this helps.
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Thanks Scott, and everybody else who chimed in. I had the wrong guy identified as Bob Lemon until Jason commented. It would have been nice if Vander Meer was there, but three Hall of Famers isn't too bad.
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Thanks Scott, and everybody else who chimed in. I had the wrong guy identified as Bob Lemon until Jason commented. It would have been nice if Vander Meer was there, but three Hall of Famers isn't too bad.
Chris, it is a great photo of the Aiea team. If you are at all interested in moving it, this is an area that I focus my research on and have curated a collection of photos and artifacts. The book shared in the comment above, there is research and numerous images provided from our collection (ChevronsandDiamonds.org) that we make available for baseball researchers and writers. If you are willing to discuss future disposition, I am sending you a PM.

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Max supposedly played on the '44 team, but I'm not sure about the '45 team. When I looked for Max in this photo, I picked the same guy you did. But I'm not certain it's him.

One guy I'm pretty sure about is Billy Herman, who's pictured here. I somehow neglected posting this photo earlier. The guy next to him looks a bit like Vander Meer to me, but I can't be sure. I'm hoping Scott gets a chance to see this one — I would trust his opinion on Vandy ...

Billy Herman (left) and Vern Olsen (right).

At a quick glance, I can ID a few of the guys in the first six photos:
1 - Bill Dickey, X
2 - Fred Hutch, X

3 - Chet Hadjuk, X
4 - X, Lemon, X
5 - Larry Varnell, Patkin, Cliff Dapper
6 - X, X, X, Lou Ciola
7 - Tom Saviori (standing), X
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Thanks so much for the IDs! I love that Patkin is in there. I'll look for you PM.

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Billy Herman (left) and Vern Olsen (right).

At a quick glance, I can ID a few of the guys in the first six photos:
1 - Bill Dickey, X
2 - Fred Hutch, X

3 - Chet Hadjuk, X
4 - X, Lemon, X
5 - Larry Varnell, Patkin, Cliff Dapper
6 - X, X, X, Lou Ciola
7 - Tom Saviori (standing), X
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