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Favorite Pre-1960 Obscure Player(s)
Posted By: Jodi Birkholm
In the spirit of the "Underrated Team" thread, I'd love to hear who your favorite obscure players are. Feel free to list as many as you wish, but try to single out your favorite first. And, of course, list why these guys hold personal meaning. Also, try to pick player(s) who, while not in the HOF, are also not names that get much airplay on this forum. I call this "The Reulbach Rule". |
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Favorite Pre-1960 Obscure Player(s)
Posted By: Bob Pomilla
Don't know that he's really "obscure", but mention must be made of Stanley "Frenchy" Bordagaray. The name, the mustache in an era when that was frowned upon and possibly my all time favorite baseball quote. |
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Favorite Pre-1960 Obscure Player(s)
Posted By: DD
Edited on second thought - it was a bit inappropriate. Just a funny sounding name was all. |
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Favorite Pre-1960 Obscure Player(s)
Posted By: samuel
gus zernial--he played for my favorite team, the athletics; was one of the best power hitters of the fifties; went all-out as a fielder and had 17 outfield assists twice in his career; and his 1952 topps card is probably my favorite of the post-war era. |
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Favorite Pre-1960 Obscure Player(s)
Posted By: Bob Manning
Robert Vavoseur “Death to Flying Things” Ferguson (1845-1894), alleged to have been nicknamed for his fielding prowess. (The original “Where Triples Go to Die?”) Except he was an infielder, and hardly a Steady Eddie. Playing third with the Brooklyn Atlantics in 1873 came close to making more errors ( 104) than putouts (109) thereby “achieving” a fielding average of .755. His career FA was a robust .849 |
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Favorite Pre-1960 Obscure Player(s)
Posted By: Kevin Cummings
Without a doubt, Gus Weyhing. |
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Favorite Pre-1960 Obscure Player(s)
Posted By: Jon Canfield
Myron "Moose" Grimshaw - Played 3 seasons with the Red Sox 1907-09 feauted in both the T206 and the colgan Chip sets. He was born, raised, lived and died in the same small town in upstate New York where I grew up. |
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Favorite Pre-1960 Obscure Player(s)
Posted By: Jodi Birkholm
Great selections so far, guys. Many of your choices are also favorites of mine. |
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Favorite Pre-1960 Obscure Player(s)
Posted By: Steve Murray
but let's see some pics. |
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Favorite Pre-1960 Obscure Player(s)
Posted By: Anonymous
I bought my e90-1 plank from an ebay seller who touted it as coming from the "Gus Zernial Collection". So supposedly he collected vintage cards. |
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Favorite Pre-1960 Obscure Player(s)
Posted By: Bruce Dorskind
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Favorite Pre-1960 Obscure Player(s)
Posted By: Steve Murray
Nice story Bruce. Thanks for sharing. |
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Favorite Pre-1960 Obscure Player(s)
Posted By: Jodi Birkholm
Bruce, |
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Favorite Pre-1960 Obscure Player(s)
Posted By: Chris Counts
The first 1957 Topps card I ever came across was Foster Castleman's. I was about 10 or 11 at the time (in the early 70s), and it was the oldest card I had ever seen. I figured he was probably one of baseball's all-time greats until I looked him up in the Baseball Encyclopedia ... |
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Favorite Pre-1960 Obscure Player(s)
Posted By: Jodi Birkholm
Definitely one of my favorite cards of all time. Does anyone else think old Foster could have won a Tom Cruise lookalike competition? |
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Favorite Pre-1960 Obscure Player(s)
Posted By: Lance
Bruce, |
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Favorite Pre-1960 Obscure Player(s)
Posted By: ali_lapoint
i always really liked Ross Youngs. John McGraw called him the greatest outfielder he ever saw. It was a shame he died so young and early on into his career. Just 10 seasons but enough to get him into the HOF. one of the most anonymous guys in there and a tough guy to find cards of. |
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Favorite Pre-1960 Obscure Player(s)
Posted By: Max Weder
There is a book from 2000 on Victory Faust: |
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Favorite Pre-1960 Obscure Player(s)
Posted By: Steve Murray
Ross Young (sic) Youngs |
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Favorite Pre-1960 Obscure Player(s)
Posted By: howard
He was the last major leaguer to play w/o a glove. |
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Favorite Pre-1960 Obscure Player(s)
Posted By: Anthony S.
Ross Youngs is, I believe, the only player in The Hall of Fame who never made it to the age of 31. Addie Joss passed away a couple days after his 31st birthday. |
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Favorite Pre-1960 Obscure Player(s)
Posted By: ali_lapoint
i believe Youngs has played the fewest seasons of any player in the HOF too. |
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Favorite Pre-1960 Obscure Player(s)
Posted By: Jodi Birkholm
Try to keep your selections to non-Hall of Famers. A HOF player is the farthest thing from "obscure". |
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Favorite Pre-1960 Obscure Player(s)
Posted By: ali_lapoint
not really jodi. if i were to mention ross youngs or elmer flick or max carey to the average person they'd 1: have no idea who they were and 2: have no idea they're in the HOF. |
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Favorite Pre-1960 Obscure Player(s)
Posted By: Jodi Birkholm
Yes, but this forum is not directed at those types of people, hence the rules I outlined in the beginning of this thread. |
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Favorite Pre-1960 Obscure Player(s)
Posted By: Steve Murray
My favorite, as many of you know, is Harl Vestin Maggert. |
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Favorite Pre-1960 Obscure Player(s)
Posted By: ali_lapoint
ok ok you started the thread so i'm playing by your rules now. |
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Favorite Pre-1960 Obscure Player(s)
Posted By: Bob Pomilla
I'd say Foster had more of a Montgomery Clift look going. |
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Favorite Pre-1960 Obscure Player(s)
Posted By: Andrew S.
I always liked Joe Hauser a lot and got him to sign a couple of items for me. Too bad he couldn't hit as many homers in the majors as he did in the minors. |
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Favorite Pre-1960 Obscure Player(s)
Posted By: Dan Bretta
Clarence G. Steen - he only played minor league ball, but I've been fascinated that I've been able to turn up so much about this turn of the century ball player - I've been surprised how much he shows up in my collection and for a time I never realized it. |
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Favorite Pre-1960 Obscure Player(s)
Posted By: Ryan Christoff
Actually, Jodi, this forum is directed at collectors of pre-war baseball cards, as opposed to (hypothetically speaking) autographs of obscure baseball players. You can probably cut someone a little slack if they don't strictly adhere to the guidelines you've laid down in a non-card related thread on a non-autograph forum. |
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Favorite Pre-1960 Obscure Player(s)
Posted By: Jodi Birkholm
Andrew, |
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Favorite Pre-1960 Obscure Player(s)
Posted By: Jodi Birkholm
Ryan, |
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Favorite Pre-1960 Obscure Player(s)
Posted By: Steve Murray
Here's my Harl Vestin Maggert: |
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Favorite Pre-1960 Obscure Player(s)
Posted By: Randy Trierweiler
Greatest full name of any baseball player: |
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Favorite Pre-1960 Obscure Player(s)
Posted By: J Levine
Jack Clements was the last full-time career catcher who was left-handed. There have been a handful of people who have caught lefty but none were full-time and none were career catchers. |
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Favorite Pre-1960 Obscure Player(s)
Posted By: david Poses
I'm surprised nobody mentioned Ten Million yet. |
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Favorite Pre-1960 Obscure Player(s)
Posted By: Bob
Cesar Tovar. In 1967 he played all 9 positions in one game and played so well all year that he received one vote for American league MVP, the only vote not received by Yaz in the Red Sox' miracle season. I believe Yaz won the triple crown that year, not positive. |
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Favorite Pre-1960 Obscure Player(s)
Posted By: Steve Murray
but I would be remiss in not naming John Francis (Shano/Shauno) Collins as one of my collecting favorites. |
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Favorite Pre-1960 Obscure Player(s)
Posted By: Jodi Birkholm
Steve, |
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Favorite Pre-1960 Obscure Player(s)
Posted By: whitehse
"I also love Zernial's '52 Topps card. He once wrote me a note after I sent him a letter asking him to explain what the heck was going on in that image!!! Gus is one of baseball's truly nice guys. " |
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Favorite Pre-1960 Obscure Player(s)
Posted By: Steve Murray
Courtesy of VCP (The bestest of the best): |
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Favorite Pre-1960 Obscure Player(s)
Posted By: Jodi Birkholm
I don't have Zernial's response at hand right now, so forgive me if I mangle the details. |
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Favorite Pre-1960 Obscure Player(s)
Posted By: Jim VB
As a kid, I loved watching Ryne Duren come in from the Yankee bullpen. He would go through his "Mr Magoo" routine, cleaning his glasses, squinting to find the catcher and home plate, tossing a few warmup pitches, and invariably, letting one go at 95 mph that sailed over the catchers head all the way to the screen. |
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Favorite Pre-1960 Obscure Player(s)
Posted By: ali_lapoint
i already said Ten Million. |
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Favorite Pre-1960 Obscure Player(s)
Posted By: Steve Murray
Alan is correct, he said Ten Million first. |
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Favorite Pre-1960 Obscure Player(s)
Posted By: Alan
I would say these Jewish players (because of their interesting names): |
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Favorite Pre-1960 Obscure Player(s)
Posted By: Bill Stone
James Thompson "Doc" Prothro. |
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Favorite Pre-1960 Obscure Player(s)
Posted By: Cy
Two players of the 50s come to mind as obscure but really had some significant year(s). |
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Favorite Pre-1960 Obscure Player(s)
Posted By: Dan P.
My high school chemestry teacher's favorite player was Zeke Bonura (sorry, folks, I don't remember her explanation for this). By the way, my high school was Cheltenham H.S., Wyncote, PA, whose second most noteable graduate (behind me, of course) was Reggie Jackson (class of 1963 or 64 or thereabouts--I graduated in 1969). |
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