fatima cards SCANS ADDED

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Posted By: fred

i have a friend who has 2 fatima cards, they are rough, authentic at best but 1 has mathews and thorpe, the NY team, (1913 i think) on it and the other has mack and the philadelphia a's on it.



anyone have any idea what these might be worth? i will try to get a scan up of them.

thanks your your help



fred

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they wiil be for sale on the BST board
thanks again

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Posted By: Joe D.

depends on the condition....

but sight unseen, I would say -

Probably $100ish for the philly team
and $200ish for the NY team.


Could be less or more depending on eye appeal.

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Posted By: dan mckee

I am with Joe, just make sure they are original. Some wannabe Harvard moron was copying these on to photo paper and ebaying them.

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Posted By: fred

he bought them about 20 years ago when he was doing local shows, so i don't think they are fakes, atleast i hope so.

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Posted By: davidcycleback

If he bought them 20 years ago, they pre-date the just mentioned fakes. The just mentioned fakes were a conconction of the last about 1-2 years.

The Fatimas are real photographs on thin paper and have no dot pattern in the images. Other than the just mentioned fakes, all reprints have a minute dot pattern in the image-- visible under a magnifying glass.

Also the fronts of the originals are glossier than the back, the backs being matte like regular paper. Glossy front, matte back and thin paper are strong signs a Fatima's original.

Lastly, while there have been reprints, most advertised as 'original' Fatimas on the market 20 years ago were original. Reprints wasn't a big issue to worry about.

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Posted By: dan mckee

david is correct, the only Fatima fakes that were around 20 years ago are cardboard cards and not of photo paper.

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Posted By: davidcycleback

If the old reprints are cardboard, then it would be simple to tell if your friend's Fatimas are real. Paper versus cardboard.

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Posted By: Bob

The way card prices are dipping, estimates of rough Fatimas which would grade authentic at best, mentioned above, are not realistic. I would say more like Phila. $50-60, NY NL $75-125.

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Posted By: fred

thanks for all your help, as soon as i can get a hold of him i will try to get them scanned for the board to see.

thanks again
fred

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Posted By: dennis

i might b intrested in them 4 good price

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Posted By: fred

bump for scans

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Posted By: Fred C

Yikes, those are a bit rough. I get the feeling that $75 for NY and $50 for Philadelphia would be generous.

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Posted By: fred

thanks for the help, they are rough and i have reduced the price on the BST board. i really don't know much about them. how many are there? are they just team cards?
thanks again for the help, this board is a great way to find out what someone has.

fred

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Posted By: barrysloate

There are cards for all sixteen American and National League teams. They're not too rare, although a couple of the teams can be a bit tougher.

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Posted By: dennis

whats your best price i am intrested in them

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Posted By: dan mckee

These have been loved lots

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Posted By: davidcycleback

The NY Nationals is the second most popular of the cards in the set, because it not only has ever popular Christy Mathewson but is one of the few Pre-WWI baseball cards with Jim Thorpe. The most popular is Cleveland because it includes Shoeless Joe Jackson.

I think the Fatima team cards are nice cards/photos, no matter what the condition. They're essentially tobacco cards and team photographs in one.