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Old 05-11-2021, 01:03 PM
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Default 1941 Chicago American Giants

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Old 05-12-2021, 12:30 AM
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Default Here’s a better picture!

Here it is!
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Old 05-12-2021, 12:34 AM
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After looking this over and doing some research I believe it’s a silver gelatin print on baryta paper.
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Old 05-12-2021, 12:18 PM
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I'm afraid what you have there is a reproduction Negro League photo faked to look old. There is an entire generation of these around, and many discussions on this forum about them. This has the same look. I hate to be the skunk at the garden party, but I assume you want to know the truth.
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Old 05-12-2021, 01:11 PM
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Thanks , can you give me some reference. I’ve only been able to find this image 2x’s one the infamous RT denert post card 1991 and then there’s the Art Pennington one that is owned by a photo warehouse and handled by Getty images. Original dimensions so on and so forth. I’m not going to say your wrong but I will give you some history on where it was found. in a collection of a gentleman in Chicago who recently passed it was the only piece in his collection he had no other memorabilia I have been communicating with the family. Also being I have a good background in photography and being from the home of modern photography I have some experience with old photos . Texture, tone, paper composition so on so forth also my nose detects faint chemicals I’m not saying it’s 1st gen. I’m guessing a 2 from the original negative. Mostly it’s the baryta paper that gives it authentication as to its age. I do plan on having a conservator evaluate it but at the moment I’m just enjoying it.
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One sold on Ebay last week for 24.99:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/31350365523...p2047675.l2557
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Here is a copy of a 1913 postcard photo. I am thinking about purchasing one because Fennimore, WI is only 12 miles from where I live.

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Old 05-12-2021, 03:32 PM
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Yeah thanks I know except if you read his description he actually has no idea of its authenticity. as I stated before I actually corresponded with the seller to learn a bit more about the origin of the photo and actually gain the confidence to take a chance. It was the description that made bidders hesitant and oh yes there are many fakes that’s why when I got it I took it apart to analyze it . I have been collecting for over 40 years and do my research. mine won’t be the final analysis I’m still going to enjoy it for now and have a conservator analyze it. I appreciate all those making judgements based on my blurry photo though lol 😂
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Here’s the copyrighted image licensed by Getty. Notice Art Pennington upper right.
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Old 05-26-2021, 07:15 AM
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Here’s some photos of the back . Lots of foxing.
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So I did the fluorescent test on the photograph this morning no glow and what you really can see is the matte finish on this photograph under the black light. i’ve corresponded with mr. Gary Albright who is a well known conservator who has worked on everything from Audubon photos to working for the baseball hall of fame he thinks that the photo appears to be original noting the age appearance and my observations. of course he would like to examine it more when the chance arises. As of this moment that’s where I’m at on this. The evidence is mounting.
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Can you take and post some closer up shots of the players? Hard to see from the pix you have posted so far.

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Old 06-27-2021, 08:48 AM
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Can you take and post some closer up shots of the players? Hard to see from the pix you have posted so far.
Here’s one for now .
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Here’s one for now .
Here’s another I took while using the black light notice the reflection off the matte finish
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Here’s another I took while using the black light notice the reflection off the matte finish
Sorry it looked better before loaded I’ll take more photos when I get a chance I put it back in it’s frame.
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Sorry it looked better before loaded I’ll take more photos when I get a chance I put it back in it’s frame.
https://share.icloud.com/photos/0ePQ...oL1YkSWSHere’s a link to the reflection photo may be better quality.
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https://share.icloud.com/photos/0ePQ...oL1YkSWSHere’s a link to the reflection photo may be better quality.
Well that didn’t work
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