Does PSA grade 1959 Bazooka with the "coupon/ad"?

[whiteymet]

Hi All:

I have only been able to find one graded 1959 Bazooka with the 'coupon/ad" under the card. That is a Mantle by SGC. See below.

Does anyone know if PSA grades them with the ad? Not a complete box, just the card.

[Peter_Spaeth]

I have seen them.

[Peter_Spaeth]

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_fro...b+psa&_sacat=0

[whiteymet]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_fro...b+psa&_sacat=0

Thanks Peter! That's what I get for searching on Google instead of ebay!!

[Cliff Bowman]

Wouldn't that particular 1959 Bazooka Mickey Mantle have graded higher if someone professionally cut it just outside the lines on the top three sides?

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Cliff Bowman

Wouldn't that particular 1959 Bazooka Mickey Mantle have graded higher if someone professionally cut it just outside the lines on the top three sides?

Not much room to work with on that right edge? Then again a card doctor might think it's worlds of room.

[whiteymet]

Originally Posted by Cliff Bowman

Wouldn't that particular 1959 Bazooka Mickey Mantle have graded higher if someone professionally cut it just outside the lines on the top three sides?

Cliff: I thought/wondered the same thing. I also wonder if it gets a higher grade leaving the (CUT ON BLACK LINE) at the top or if it were cut just above the dotted line and under the (CUT ON BLACK LINE)?? Not much room there but looks like it could be done.

Does PSA supply their "standards" on stuff like this? Or do people have to fly blind?

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by whiteymet

Cliff: I thought/wondered the same thing. I also wonder if it gets a higher grade leaving the (CUT ON BLACK LINE) at the top or if it were cut just above the dotted line and under the (CUT ON BLACK LINE)?? Not much room there but looks like it could be done.

Does PSA supply their "standards" on stuff like this? Or do people have to fly blind?

It might get a better grade but there's a premium for having the words there I suspect.

[swarmee]

Officially, this is what they consider:
https://www.psacard.com/resources/gradingstandards

The Grading of Hand-Cut Cards
handcut card
PSA will grade virtually any card that has been hand-cut off of a panel, box, etc. (Post Cereal, Hostess, Bazooka, Strip cards, etc.) keeping the following information in mind. This service does not include traditional sheet-cut cards. PSA will not grade cards cut from sheets that can be obtained in a normal fashion. For example, PSA will not grade a 1979 O-Pee-Chee Wayne Gretzky card cut from a sheet because that card was issued in non-sheet form. On the other hand, PSA will grade a 1959 Bazooka or 1961 Post Cereal Mickey Mantle because those cards could only be obtained in one fashion - removed by hand from a box or panel.

In order for PSA to actually assign a grade to any of the cards that possess visible/defined borders on all four sides, evidence of that border must be present or the card must exhibit virtually-full borders based on the design of the specific issue. If the cut exceeds the visible border for the card in question, PSA will encapsulate the card as "Authentic" only. If the card is severely undersized and suffers in overall eye appeal, the graders may deem the card not suitable for authentication or reject the card as minimum-sized altogether.

Keep in mind that, for cards that do not possess visible/defined borders, the cards must still fall within a certain size requirement for that particular issue in order to qualify for an actual grade. In other words, the borders must be virtually full in order for a grade to be rendered. Otherwise, as stated above, a label of "Authentic" will be assigned or, in some cases, the cards may fall short of the size requirement altogether. This is not an exact science. PSA will do its best to provide consistent guidelines for these types of cards.

In addition, PSA will allow cards that have had a coupon or tab removed from the original card to be submitted under this service. For example, if a 1952 Red Man Tobacco card is cut at or outside of the established tab line, the card would be eligible to receive a numerical grade. On the other hand, if the 1952 Red Man Tobacco card is cut inside of the line (the line where the tab meets the interior of the card), then the PSA graders will be precluded from entering a numerical grade. Cards that are cut within the limits established for a particular issue will be encapsulated and designated as "authentic" by PSA. All of the cards eligible for this service will be designated as "Hand-Cut" on the PSA label to distinguish them from the intact, "with tab" or "with coupon" examples.

PSA suggests that, in order to achieve the highest grades, the cuts of the cards should be relatively close to the visible borders without exceeding the limit. Cards that exhibit a clean, accurate and properly shaped cut have the best chance at achieving the highest grades. Eye appeal is very important. When it comes to excess paper or cardboard around the edges of the visible borders, the graders will place significant importance on overall eye appeal. Keep in mind that all cards of this type will be designated as "Hand-Cut" on the PSA label for accuracy. In addition, if the customer chooses, PSA will grade and encapsulate entire panels if those panels will fit in any of our current PSA holders. With the exception of the aforementioned items, normal grading criteria will apply.

[whiteymet]

Thanks John!

Two other question. Does PSA provide info on the exact measurements of a handcut card like the 59 Bazooka. This question comes from there wording here:

PSA suggests that, in order to achieve the highest grades, the cuts of the cards should be relatively close to the visible borders without exceeding the limit.

So what's the limit?? How far outside the dotted line can/should the cut be?and as I asked above. I also wonder if it gets a higher grade leaving the (CUT ON BLACK LINE) at the top or if it were cut just above the dotted line and under the (CUT ON BLACK LINE)?? Not much room there but looks like it could be done.

Any knowledge or thoughts on these questions? I am sure you can not get a reply from PSA

[swarmee]

https://www.psacard.com/cardfacts/ba...a-hand-cut/169

The 1959 Bazooka Baseball set consists of 23 unnumbered cards, each one measuring approximately 2-13/16" by 4-15/16" (when they are perfectly cut on their dotted borders).

The only Bazooka panel I cut, I left the entire text in at the top and got a PSA 9. I figure it's better to leave the text and cut a little higher than to cut through the words, myself. So then, I'd recommend cutting the same border around the other three sides that you leave at the top.

This one got an 8 about 5 years ago:


Looks like there are a few in their pop report "w/tab" https://www.psacard.com/auctionprice...-cut/33617#g=8

You may want to do a deep dive of the cards in registry sets. But as always, I wouldn't expect consistency with PSA and how they grade these.