Production Estimates / Print Run Archive

[JUrsaner]

The decline in Donruss production figures (slight) in 1992 and (major) in 1994 were based on details in some memos / press releases that Insidethewrapper posted higher up in the thread.

Let me know if those jibe with what you remember from the internal documents (increased sales growth yr-yr could be due to price increases rather than volume?) and/or if you can find the copies of the docs

Originally Posted by HasselhoffsCheeseburger

The Donruss numbers are off. I uncovered some Donruss internal sales documents from 1990 and they talked about the sales figures and growth from year-to-year throughout the decade. While these aren't actual production numbers, I think it's safe to infer that as sales increased dramatically, so did production.

Despite popular hobby sentiment, 1984 Donruss was not short printed. It was Donruss' most successful year to date and, in fact, they did so well that they decided to branch out and enter the Canadian market. From 1985 onward, sales virtually doubled every year.

If Donruss was doing this well, Topps must have been cleaning up because they had a much larger market share.

I know I saved a copy of these documents. There's virtually no way I would have come across such things and not made some kind of digital copy for my files. It's just a matter of me finding them.

Arthur

[Ngs428]

I have been lookin into some base parallel sets from 1980-1995. I have found the following, some of the print runs don't match the info in the OP.

https://www.tiffanycards.com/tiffany-cards has some good info. It logs actual sets with the serial numbers when they are sold.

Other info was from http://baseballcardpedia.com/index.php/

1984 Topps Tiffany base and traded: 7,000 (approx. 7,000 according to tiffanycards.com, 6,722 is the highest set number found)
1985 Topps Tiffany base and traded: 5,000 (5,000 according to tiffanycards.com, 5,000 is the highest set number found)
1986 Topps Tiffany base and traded: 5,000 (just over 5,000 according to tiffanycards.com, 5,125 is the highest set number found)
1987 Topps Tiffany base and traded: 30,000 (under 30,000 according to tiffanycards.com, 29,376 is the highest set number found)
1988 Topps Tiffany base and traded: 30,000 (just under 30,000 according to tiffanycards.com, 29,290 is the highest set number)
1989 Topps Tiffany base and traded: 15,000 (15,000 according to tiffanycards.com, 13,624 is the highest set number found)
1990 Topps Tiffany base and traded: 5,000 (under 5,000 according to tiffanycards.com, 4,315 is the highest set number found)
1991 Topps Tiffany base and traded: 4,000 (4,000 according to tiffanycards.com, 3,456 is the highest set number found)

1989 Bowman tiffany: 6,000 (6,096 is the highest set number found)
1990 Bowman tiffany: 6,000 (6,000 is the highest set number found)

1988 Score Glossy base: 5,000
1988 Score Glossy Traded: 3,000

1987 Fleer Glossy base and update: 75k-100k
1988 Fleer Glossy base and update: 40k-60k
1989 Fleer Glossy base (no update was made): 30k

1993 Topps Marlins Inaugural: 6,000
1993 Topps Rockies Inaugural: 10,000

1984 Fleer Update set: 12,000 unofficial (Not a parallel, but limited print run)
1984 Topps Nestle (Hand Cut): 5,000
1991 Topps Desert Shield: 6,313 unofficial
1993 Finest Refractors: 241
1993 Finest Jumbo (Partial Parallel #'s 84-116): 1,500
1993 Stadium Club First Day Issue: 2,000
1993 Stadium Club Members Only Factory Set: 12,000
1994 Stadium Club First Day Issue: 2,000
1994 Stadium Club Golden Rainbow (Gold Foil): ?
1994 Stadium Club Members Only Factory Set: 5,000
1994 Topps Spanish/Bilingual: 1,000 Factory Sets
1995 Stadium Club First Day Issue: 2,000?
1995 Stadium Club Members Only Factory Set: 4,000

[JUrsaner]

Thanks for posting -- looks like an incredible resource. I'll update the list. Been working on a lot of other sets for it, but haven't been updating it here

[JUrsaner]

Just hoping to find some renewed inspiration to keep building on this thread. Adding photos of some of my favorite cards from the '80s & '90s as a little reminder that there are amazing sets from the "Junkwax" era.

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[dragonwagon9080]

I need help identifying this set #. I original thought it was 06722, but after a closer review and not finding any additional set above 6483, I doubt it is a 7. 06?22 - it has to be a 0, 1,2,3, or 4. It doesn't look like a 1,3, or 4 to me. So is it a 2 or a 0?

https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...ete-1920081063

[JUrsaner]

Originally Posted by dragonwagon9080

I need help identifying this set #. I original thought it was 06722, but after a closer review and not finding any additional set above 6483, I doubt it is a 7. 06?22 - it has to be a 0, 1,2,3, or 4. It doesn't look like a 1,3, or 4 to me. So is it a 2 or a 0?

https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...ete-1920081063

Kinda just looks like another 2, but faded

[Snowman]

I'm digging up this old thread because I'm interested in building a predictive statistical model, or econometrics type model, to estimate total print runs of vintage sets. It should be doable if I have a couple of known, or semi-known, sets that I can start with. I'll have to control for multiple factors, but I think it should be doable using pop report data as long as I can build a separate ensemble model that predicts the likelihood of a card being submitted in the first place (very doable, as the likelihood of a card being submitted for grading depends on demand and survival, as well as likelihoods of resubmission). From there, I should be able to estimate total print runs that at least pass the smell test.

Has any progress been made on this project in recent years?