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Old 02-04-2023, 09:03 PM
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Default Do any cards exist of Raymond "Pat" Haley?

I recently acquired this great snap from Scott Gaynors eBay auction in a lot.

I'm wondering if any cards exist of Raymond as I can't find a single one online. Or even a nice image aside from mine for that matter. Are these kinds of images very desirable to Collectors?

Pat played 3 years in the majors, so to not have any kind of release is hard to believe. He's not like most major leaguers with no cards who only played a handful of games, Or a single year.

I'm sure some big As fans have something?

Would love your opinions!

Also, if a thread has been made showcasing forgotten players with no releases that I'm unaware of please point me to it. Or better yet, somebody should make one!
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TCDB's database turns up only a 2010 Historic Autographs cut signature card (https://www.tcdb.com/Person.cfm/pid/...tName=&sBrand=)

5 games in 1915, not good in 1916, but his final year he hit .276 and played pretty well it appears as a backup catcher. The A's traded Schang away at the end of the year, and they also traded away Val Picinich who went on to a decent career as a part time catcher for many years. Billy Meyer didn't play a game after 1917 either. They only kept Wickey McAvoy who had played 10 games in 1917 for the next year and got 295 plate appearances for 1918 and didn't hit well but not too horribly, and Cy Perkins who had played 6 games in 1917 and was horrible in 1918. Didn't call up anyone or trade for anyone, it was just McAvoy and Perkins. The stat lines make it look like Haley should have been a pretty clear guy to keep on the roster or even let compete for the starting job. Wonder what happened.
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Default Do any cards exist of Raymond "Pat" Haley?

Yes, looks like he was just catching his footing in the majors and was starting to do well.

Unfortunately Pat was Drafted into the army in 1917 and didn't get out until basically mid 1919. So that essentially ended his career.
Though he continued to play above average in the minors throughout the 1920s.

Great sabr article here: https://sabr.org/bioproj/person/raymond-haley/
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