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Greminger is high on my list of favorite T213-1's. It was one of the final four on my wantlist.
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.... Sweet Caporal ..... Sovereign ......... Piedmont_____The "House" that created these Tobacco cards_____ Sovereign….American Beauty...…. UZIT


This thread will provide references to major contributions posted on Net54 these past 14 years that have formed a better understanding of "The Monster" [as Bill Heitman
so aptly coined his T206 book (circa 1980)].

Let's start with the 2005-2006 publication of Scot Reader's Inside T206
An excellent, very informative, and well written book that inspired many of us Net54ers to post our experiences and theory's regarding the complexities of the T206 series.

One of the early and very significant T206 threads was posted in June 2006 by Barry Arnold, titled T206 EPDG- - - how rare in your collection ?
This thread sparked lots of brainstorming among Net54ers regarding T206's. It included surveys; and, various aspects of the T206 series were explored.....resulting in 363
meaningful posts. Furthermore, between many of us Net54ers, this thread was...."the beginning of a beautiful friendship" (to quote Humphrey Bogart in Casablanca).

In the Summer of 2006, Bill Brown posted his T206 Super-Set (excel) spreadsheet. Bill received 1000's of inputs from Net54ers for this spreadsheet. It was a great start
in the pursuit of what a T206 "master" set would be comprised of....T206 Super-Set

Sept 2007, I started a thread titled Joe Doyle NAT'L and it's 11 "cousins"....SURVEY to explore certain PIEDMONT 350 cards that I considered as rare as the Joe Doyle
"error" card. I eventually referred to these particular T206's as the Elite 11


Subsequent posts in this thread will expand on theory's regarding the structure of the T206 series and the front/back permutations that have resulted. A fair number of the
theory's presented on Net54 (since 2006) have withstood the test of time. Providing accurate lists of which front/back combos were printed. And, which ones are No-Prints.

So, stay tuned......many more T206 "oldies but goodies" References and Reflections will be posted here.

And, feel free to contribute any meaningful T206 stories, or experiences collecting T206's that you have.

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Post #1......Introduction....plus Scot Reader's " Inside T206 " book, and 3 significant T206 threads (circa..2006) for starters.

Post #2......The beginning of the six "Super-Prints"

Post #4......SOVEREIGN phantom "350/460" series (apple green cards)

Post #5......350/460 series backs identified

Post #8......350/460 series mutually-exclusive cards

Post #22.....T206 Plank mystery

Post #25.....T206 DRUM's...."A-B-C-D" connection

Post #26.....A-B-C-D connection expanded

Post #28.....1910 COUPON (T213-1) sub-set

Post #30.....Ty Cobb / Ty Cobb back

Post #31.....T206 Checklists....plus 1910 COUPON, T215-1 and Ty Cobb/Ty Cobb

Posts #33 & 34.....Richard Russell's unique T206 collection

Posts #35 - 36 & 38.....Exclusive 12 group (460-only series)

Post #39.....AMERICAN BEAUTY 350 No Frame subjects = DRUM subjects

Posts #44 & 48.....Collecting T206 sets....tell us your story's

Post #54.....T206 all-PIEDMONT set

Post #65......SOVEREIGN set story

Post #69......SWEET CAPORAL, Factory #30 set story

Posts #72 & 74......AMERICAN BEAUTY 460 adventure

Posts #76 - 77......T206 cards RE-FRONTED (or re-backed)....FAKE's !

Post #93.....T206 "Proofs"

Post #96.....UZIT checklist

Post #97.....Spring of 1911....T206 era ends....the start of the "Golden era" begins

Post #98.....ATC Factory's associated with the White-Bordered cards (1909 - 1911)

Posts #101 & 106.....BROAD LEAF 460 checklist

Post #107.....Hobby greats....Frank Nagy and Bill Heitman

Post #108.....CAROLINA BRIGHTS checklist

Post #124.....PIEDMONT 460, Factory #42 checklist

Posts #128 - 131.....Why are Connie Mack, Jack Coombs, Shoeless Joe Jackson, Smoky Joe Wood missing in the T206 set ?

Posts #134 & 138.....Timeline of the T206 POLAR BEAR cards

Post #144.....T206 OLD MILL (Major League series) cards

Post #146..... T206 OLD MILL Southern League cards

Post #161.....Southern League cards (continued)

Post #162.....T206 Southern Leaguers Brown OLD MILL cards

Post #171.....The mysterious T206 brown LENOX cards

Post #181.....SWEET CAPORAL 460, Factory #30 backs (w/o Factory #42 overprint)

Post #190.....El Principe de Gales T206 cards

Post #196.....SWEET CAPORAL 350-460, Factory #42 overprint cards

Post #198.....Regional source of the Elite 11 cards

Posts #201 >> 227.....Show-n-tell us of your favorite T206's

Posts #231 >> 248.....Show-n-tell us of your T206 Run(s)

Posts #263 >> 276.....T206 color printing errors......let's see some of these interesting T206's

Posts #282 >> 294.....The mysterious nature of the Red HINDU cards

Posts #302 >> 316.....Show-n-tell us of your MAGIE cards

Posts #328 >> 333.....T206 150-only subjects......

Posts #334 >> 346.....T206 TRIVIA QUIZ....1st correct answer wins T206

Posts #353 >> 358.....PIEDMONT set structure & checklist

Posts #360 >> 366.....T206 TRIVIA QUIZ....1st correct answer wins T206

Post #368.....Reminiscing about T206's in 2005

Post #378.....Remembering Jantz Morey

Posts #379 >> 385.....T206 TRIVIA QUIZ....1st correct answer wins T206

Posts #386 >> 402.....T206 printed sheet structure

Posts #405 >> 440.....Show us your BROAD LEAF 350 cards

Posts #441 >> 450.....Comparable printing patterns of the T206's and T205's

Posts #453 >> 467.....Guess the price of a near complete T206 set

Posts #469 >> 470.....Guess the selling price of a COMPLETE SOVEREIGN set

Posts #471 >> 474.....Guess selling price of a near complete PIEDMONT set

Posts #476 >> 479.....Guess selling price of a complete SWEET CAP, F#30 set

Posts #481 >> 515.....Show-n-Tell us of your T206 "finds"

Posts #516 >> 536....."Bang the DRUM Slowly" while showing us your DRUM cards

Posts #537 >> 551.....Guess how many Demmitt & O'Hara St Louis cards exist ?

Posts #553 >> 554.....FYI: T206 rosters of the 16 Major League teams

Posts #561 >> 570.....FYI: T206 rosters of the 16 Major League teams

Posts #571 >> 572.....FYI: 350 Series Minor Leaguer's checklist and trivia

Posts #573 >> 573.....T206 Southern League cards illustrated

Posts #574 >> 579.....T206 "Monster" obsession ? ....Check-out this one !

Posts #580 >> 597.....Do the T215-1 cards belong in the T206 set ?

Posts #598 >> 600.....Any guesses why no CHESTERFIELD or LUCKY STRIKE T-cards ?

Posts #601 >> 603.....Any guesses why no CHESTERFIELD or LUCKY STRIKE T-cards ?

Posts #605 >> 621.....the TOLSTOI story

Posts #622 >> 623.....Meet me at Philly, we can Talk T206's

Posts #624 >> 635.....CYCLE 460 checklist

Posts #636 >> 650.....The "MONSTER" Master Set achievement

Posts #651 >> 664.....The "MONSTER" Master Set achievement

Posts #665 >> 669.....UPGRADING T206 cards

Posts #671 >> 674.....And then, there are times to down-grade your T206's

Posts #675 >> 692.....Black LENOX checklist

Posts #693 >> 697.....Check-out Jamie B's multi-brand T206 card

Posts #698 >> 700.....Revisting the mysterious Ty Cobb card with TY COBB back

Posts #701 >> 713.....Reprising the Ty Cobb / TY COBB card debate

Posts #714 >> 726.....CYCLE 350 checklist..... where have all the CYCLE 350 cards gone ?

Posts #727 >> 741.....the enigmatic Lajoie (with bat)..... Post your inputs and/or cards

Posts #742 >> 750.....The elusive ELITE 11....show them, if you have them

Posts #751 >> 760.....The elusive ELITE 11....show them, if you have them

Posts #761 >> 800.....How do you collect T206's: Graded or Ungraded ?...show us your cards

Posts #801 >> 821.....How do you collect T206's: Graded or Ungraded ?...show us your cards

Posts #824 >> 832.....Possible sources of the T206 Wagner cards

Posts #833 >> 850.....T206 BLANK-BACKS...if you have them, post them here

Posts #851 >> 853.....T206 BLANK-BACKS...if you have them, post them here

Posts #854 >> 883.....What backs are your favorite(s), and do you collect runs of them ?

Posts #884 >> 900.....Group of 36 subjects (350 Series) that are CB, EPDG, OM, PB NO-PRINTS

Posts #901 >> 916.....Group of 36 subjects (350 Series) that are CB, EPDG, OM, PB NO-PRINTS

Posts #917 >> 944.....MISSION (99%) ACCOMPLISHED American Beauty 460 run. Show your favorite run

Posts #945 >> 950.....Red Ink "Twins" > HINDU and SWEET CAPORAL 350-460 Factory #42 cards

Posts #951 >> 961.....Red Ink "Twins" > HINDU and SWEET CAPORAL 350-460 Factory #42 cards

Posts #962 >> 984.....Possible sources of the T206 Wagner cards (Re-visited)

Posts #985 >> 1000....... the "poor man's" T206 Joe Doyle "Nat'L" card

Posts #1001 >> 1002..... the "poor man's" T206 Joe Doyle "Nat'L" card

Posts #1004 >> 1034.....Reminiscing about your 1st BB card Show where you acquired T206's

Posts #1035 >> 1050.....Show T206's with same name on top or different player's name on top

Posts #1051 >> 1066.....Show T206's with same name on top or different player's name on top

Posts #1068 >> 1070.....Imagine the T206 guys come alive, great read about the 1904 season

Posts #1071 >> 1086....."pet peeves" regarding certain T206's...and tell us of your's ?

Posts #1087 >> 1100.....Unique Antique CAR(ds).....Show us your "One of a Kind" T206(s)

Posts #1101 >> 1150.....Unique Antique CAR(ds).....Show us your "One of a Kind" T206(s)

Posts #1151 >> 1160.....Unique Antique CAR(ds).....Show us your "One of a Kind" T206(s)

Posts #1161 >> 1193.....ATC's "signature" white-border T-card. Post your favorite Red Cobb

In this thread, I've tried to present some very complex aspects of the Series structure of the T206 set in a style which is understandable to most of the T206 collectors.
However, if not clear, don't be shy about asking questions. Post your questions on this thread. Or, email me directly with your questions.... tedzan11@comcast.net
In either event, I will gladly do my best to provide you clear and meaningful answer(s).


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Greminger is high on my list of favorite T213-1's. It was one of the final four on my wantlist.

Rob

Greminger is also one of my favorites. But, I haven't had any luck getting his 1910 COUPON card.
PSA pop report lists only 1. How many Greminger cards are listed in the SGC pop report data ?


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It looks like the SGC pop report only shows one graded Greminger, an SGC 30. The one I have is raw, from a board member who was working on the SL'er subset. At least a couple of collectors are trying to complete, or have completed the SL subset, which makes it even tougher to find cards like Greminger. From an old scan, here is the Breitenstein I have, along with a few others. I need to scan all of my T213's and post them to my flickr page.
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It looks like the SGC pop report only shows one graded Greminger, an SGC 30. The one I have is raw, from a board member who was working on the SL'er subset. At least a couple of collectors are trying to complete, or have completed the SL subset, which makes it even tougher to find cards like Greminger. From an old scan, here is the Breitenstein I have, along with a few others. I need to scan all of my T213's and post them to my flickr page.

Rob

Thanks for the SGC info regarding Breitenstein.

I have another question for you.....how many of your 1910 COUPON cards have the
typical paper loss seen on the upper part of their backs (as my Breitenstein does) ?



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Ted, here's an old picture of the backs from 5 or 6 years ago. I have been able to upgrade many of the cards with back damage. For the ones I have, there are all types of back damage, usually dime size in the middle from album removal. Most of the ones I have are clean backs.
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Ted, here's an old picture of the backs from 5 or 6 years ago. I have been able to upgrade many of the cards with back damage. For the ones I have, there are all types of back damage, usually dime size in the middle from album removal. Most of the ones I have are clean backs.

Rob

Thanks for displaying all the cards in your set. It looks like you have only about couple of cards with what I refer to as the "typical paper loss" like my 4 cards shown here.

Here's my theory on why these T213 cards have this type of paper loss. The American Tobacco Co. (ATC) introduced the "COUPON" brand circa 1909-1910. ATC packaged
these cigarettes in Cartons (11" x 3" x 2") containing approx. 200 cigarettes. American Litho issued these 1910 COUPON cards in the Spring/Summer of 1910.
Some cards were inserted inside the cartons, and others were pasted on the outside of the cartons.

Here are 4 of my 1910 COUPON cards that exhibit this paper loss. My "show-piece" is the Doolan card, as it exposes cardboard residue from the Cigarette carton which it
was glued on. The back of this Doolan card appears to confirm my above stated theory.


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I'm running out of "unique" CARDS to display. So, I will switch to my unique CARS. In post #1087 is my "rare bird", a 1957 T-Bird, which I have enjoyed driving since 1972
when I acquired it from a car mechanic in Breton Woods, NJ. I refer to it as "rare" because I have seen only one other one with Willow Green paint. In 1957, Ford produced
approx. 21,000 T-Birds....approx. 200 were Willow Green.

My 1960 T-Bird is also Willow Green (just a coincidence). There are many Antique Car Shows here in Pennsylvania and I have attended many of them through out the years
yet I have never seen another 1960 Willow Green T-Bird. Perhaps, mine is "unique" here on the East coast. If I were on the West coast, all bets are off









Hey guys.....I have some interesting experiences with these two "American Heavy Metal" machines. If you are interested, I will post one or two of them


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Whoa !

One more to go....this "gem" was my first T206 DRUM (acquired in 1985). For many years it was a unique T206.

In recent years, I sold this Moeller card to a good friend on Net54, which completed his T206 Tobacco backs run.

Now in the PSA pop report there is one graded A. And in the SGC pop report there is one graded A. These 2 may
be the same one, appearing twice because it was crossed-over. Or, there may be two different ones known now.






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A Net54 reader emailed me, requesting a story regarding my T-Bird(s).

So, here is an experience that I have never forgotten. I'm driving to work in the 1957 Thunderbird on the Garden State Parkway (circa 1977). I had the stick-shift in Overdrive,
and before I realize it, I'm cruising at 75 mph. Suddenly, I see flashing lights in my side-view mirror. It's a NJ State Trooper. As I head for the shoulder, he turns off his lights as
he pulls along side me, and
from his Loud Speaker I hear.... "Do you want to sell your T-Bird ?"
I shake my head indicating.... "No".
Then he says.... "I'll pay you, whatever you want for it."
I nod again a.... "No".
Then he says.... "I don't blame you". And, waves to me and takes off.

Well guys, that was a scary experience, since NJ in 1975 had lowered the Speed Limit to 55 mph.


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The American Tobacco Company's "signature" image in the white-border Tobacco card family is the Red Cobb. The American Lithographic Co. printed the Red Cobb
with 29 different tobacco advertisements (T206, T213, T214 and TY COBB back).

The only white-border Tobacco card sets that do not include the Red Cobb are the T215 RED CROSS set of 96 subjects **. And strangely enough, it's "cousin" set,
the T215 "PIRATE" set of 96 cards (which does NOT include any Cobb cards in it).

** Note...... The Cobb (bat off shoulder) is included in the T215 RED CROSS set.


Jamie's (Blunder19) tremendous Red Cobb run is complete with all 29 of these white-bordered cards, which were printed with the various Tobacco advertisements.


Show us your favorite Red Cobb's. My favorite for several reasons is the elusive SOVEREIGN 460. This Red Cobb is a difficult front / back combination to find.





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Nice one Ted. Jaime's red Cobb back run is epic.

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Mine has a punch hole for easy key chain installation. According to the back, this practice was O.K. in its day.

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WHAT?
jamie has a red cobb back run?
i don't believe it, and won't, until isee it!
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WHAT?
jamie has a red cobb back run?
i don't believe it, and won't, until isee it!
AWESOME Mark! Outstanding T206 Coupon Cobb!
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This'll be fun to see a bunch of cool Red Cobbs!

Recently acquired...
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Jamie’s red Cobb back run is probably the coolest t206 “thing” out there; I think it beats a 524 set.

Here are my red Cobbs
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My only Red!
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We found this in my Grandpa's "Sock Drawer" years after he & Grandma passed. We NEVER knew had it and he NEVER said...

He had 3 Polar Bear cards - Kelley, Young, and this!
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WOW ! .......these 1910 COUPON Cobb's...."It don't come easy" (to quote Ringo Starr).

So far, we've shown three of them. If we include Jamie's, Rob McK's & Jefferson Burdick's (in the NY Met) that accounts for six of these scarce Cobb's.


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Still need a 1919 T213-3 Red Cobb Coupon...
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now i'm feeling like i'm being bullied into sharing this...
and i still don't believe that "jamie" guy has squat!
waiting to see...
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My one and only, got it off this Jamie guy.

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Great card, Mark.
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thank you, gentlemen for your encouraging comments.
the t213-1 is probably my very favorite simply because i never thiught i would acquire one!
though, of course i am also quite fond of the lenox, since it was the first one of my "odd-backs."
very nice card chris! i wish mine had the borders your does.
and, johnny v, isn't it about time you shared your special red cobb? still a favorite of mine (even tho you own it now/again}!
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Here's a red Cobb with a hint of red ink spotting on it's back, apparently due to "wet ink" transfer.





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Being from Georgia I'm a big fan of Cobb and Bobby Jones
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Woah! That's a whole bunch of awesomeness.
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Default T206 REFERENCE....ATC's "signature" white-border T-card. Post your favorite Red Cobb

And, here we have the red Cobb with the SOVEREIGN 350 back which was printed with "apple green" ink.

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Being from Georgia I'm a big fan of Cobb and Bobby Jones
Impressive...almost a full roster of red Cobbs! May you be my Secret Santa next year.

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Default T206 REFERENCE....ATC's "signature" white-border T-card. Post your favorite Red Cobb

In this current "crazy Cobb environment", I took Kenny Rogers famous advice regarding cards.....
" You've got to know when to hold them, know when to fold them "


Here is (was) my nicest looking red Cobb card, which was in my SWEET CAPORAL Factory #30 set for many
years. I acquired this Cobb in the 1990's. And, in recent times I sold it for an offer which I could not refuse.





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The one in my set.
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Hey guys,

Some really great red Cobb's on display here. Keep on posting more of them.


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Old 01-01-2021, 08:09 PM
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This red Cobb is by no means a favorite of mine; however, I'm posting it anyhow as an example of an occasional PSA blunder



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That's just a data error when they did the label like these two.

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But the graders are the ones that messed up on these two they both should have received a mk qualifier. They missed where someone made the 1 into
a 3 on the Weimer and where someone drew an emblem on Nicholls uniform sleeve.

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Not the prettiest red Cobb; however, it will do.....as it has the back I need for my SWEET CAP Factory #42 overprint run.


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It's time for me to show-off my unique red Cobb with an unusually rare LENOX back.

Now..... do not let the " MILITARY SERIES " on the back of this card confuse you

After all, Cobb has been quoted as saying...." Baseball is like War ! "


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In my wild imagination, I expect that some day we will find a red Cobb with a T80 back on it. This may seem improbable; however,
consider a printer confusing the T80 LENOX (backs) printing plates with the T206 LENOX plates. Both the T206 and T80 cards were
printed concurrently (circa early Spring 1911).







The same type of printing mistake applies to this Cobb; however, it would be a UZIT back. Here Cobb is wielding his "weapon of War"


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This red Cobb with a PIEDMONT #42 back is a real beauty....however, it is not a real T206. But, it sure is a darn good reprint.


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Hi Leon

I don't understand why PSA graded your SWEET CAPORAL Cobb with such a low grade ?

The Front and back look good to me.



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Some say this Cobb is a T206, and others say not. In any event, it's absolutely a member of the ATC "signature" family.






Factory #33......Reidsville, NC

Circa 1910, ATC introduced this new brand..... the "Ty Cobb" Smoking Tobacco. Here is a vintage postcard of the manufacturing plant.





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