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Old 08-06-2008, 06:41 PM
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Posted By: Frank B


I realize that a scan is not ideal but I would like to
see what some of the experienced eyes would give these
cards. I put them in alphabetical order. Thanks.





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Old 08-06-2008, 06:45 PM
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Posted By: Jason

I'll take a shot.

Davis - SGC40
Overall - SGC30
Steinfeldt -SGC50
Wilson - SGC20

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Old 08-06-2008, 06:46 PM
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Posted By: Steve

6 4 5 2


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Old 08-06-2008, 06:48 PM
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Posted By: Dave F


60
40
40
30

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Old 08-06-2008, 06:50 PM
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Posted By: Todd Schultz

80,40,70,30

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Old 08-06-2008, 06:55 PM
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Posted By: Tom Boblitt

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Old 08-06-2008, 07:00 PM
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Posted By: Marty Ogelvie

Wow, the grades are all over the board...

here is what I came up with just doing a quick glance;

50
30
60
20



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Posted By: Bill

60 Davis
40 Overall
60 Steinfeldt
30 Wilson

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Posted By: Steve Murray

Davis - SGC84
Overall - SGC50
Steinfeldt -SGC60
Wilson - SGC30

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Old 08-06-2008, 07:06 PM
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Posted By: Matt

do they all have numeric grades? If so:
60
40
30 (two wrinkles top right corner)
30

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Posted By: Chris

6 3 5 2

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Posted By: Adam

5, 4, 4, 3

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Old 08-06-2008, 07:13 PM
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Posted By: Frank B


Matt - none are Authentic if thats what you mean.
They all have standard numeric grades.


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Old 08-06-2008, 07:15 PM
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Posted By: barrysloate

Davis and Steindfeldt both 80
The other two 40

Of course if any has a light crease it's impossible to tell.

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Posted By: Eric B

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Old 08-06-2008, 07:36 PM
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Posted By: Anthony S.

Got a sneaky feeling based on the way the question was posed, that the cards on the right either received the same grade or higher than their more aesthetically appealing counterparts on the left.

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Posted By: Michael Steele

Could be something tricky going on here but...

Davis SGC 70
Overall SGC 40
Steinfeldt SGC 50
Wilson SGC 40

Is there a prize if someone nails it....

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Posted By: Judson Hamlin

I'll go with 60 on the Davis, 50 on Steinfeldt, 30 on Orvie and 20 on Wilson; I'm thinking that Davis look short, even though it's not an A



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Posted By: cmoking

From the scans alone, I'd say:

Davis 80 - but not sure about the bottom left area.
Overall 40 - top right, is that paper loss? If so, 30
Steinfeldt 80
Wilson 40

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Posted By: Lance

Steinfelt = T or 50/4
Wilson = 30/2
Overall = T or 40/3
Davis = T or 50/4

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Posted By: fkw

50, 30, 50, 20

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Posted By: Craig W

Davis - SGC60
Overall - SGC40
Steinfeldt -SGC50
Wilson - SGC30

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Posted By: Rhett Yeakley

60,40,50,40

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Old 08-06-2008, 08:27 PM
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Posted By: Alan U

Davis - A
Overall - 40
Steinfeldt -A
Wilson - 40

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Posted By: Tony Andrea


70
40
70
30

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Posted By: Brian T.

SGC 70
SGC 30
SGC 60
SGC 20

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Posted By: Carl Lamendola

You need to answer two questions....

Any paper loss (front or back) on the nicer looking cards?
Any creases and where?

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Posted By: MikeU

Davis: A or 70/5.5
Overall: 30/2
Steinfeldt: A or 50/4
Wilson: 20/1.5

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Posted By: Bob

50, 30, 50, 20
same as fkw

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Posted By: Scott Mt. Joy

80
40
70
30

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Posted By: Frank B

Thanks to all who graded. I asked because when going through
some cards and sorting by grade several did not look right
especially when lined up vs other cards a grade or two higher
or lower. I pulled some I thought I should crack out and send back
in and Davis and Steinfeldt were two of them. I examined them
under magnification and Davis has no issues. Steinfeldt has a
wrinkle bottom right hand corner but it's tough to see with the naked
eye. I put Overall and Wilson in as pretty represenative of their
grade although it does look like Wilson is a bit overgraded.

I think the grades given thus far are not going
to change a whole lot if we keep going so here are
the results of the poll:

DAVIS - avg grade SGC60/5.0

OVERALL - avg grade SGC 40/3.0

STEINFELDT - avg grade SGC50+/4.4

WILSON - avg grade SGC30+/2.1

The consensus was Overall got exactly what he deserved
and that Wilson received a break. Not one person thought
Steinfeldt or Davis deserved the low grade SGC gave it
and almost all thought it wasn't even close.
Noone graded Wilson better than any of the other three
and noone gave Overall a higher mark than Davis or Steinfeldt.
Across the board it was felt that Davis and Steinfelt were
the superior cards. That's what I thought as well and I'll
be sending them in raw somewhere for a new grade.
I'll put the new grades up when I get them back.

The actual grades given by SGC were:

DAVIS - 20/1.5

OVERALL - 40/3

STEINFELDT - 20/1.5

WILSON - 40/3



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Posted By: cmoking

Wow! Is it possible there are marks on the two SGC 20s that are hard to see via scan?

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Posted By: Frank B

The Davis has a dent on reverse above the O in "Piedmont"
and another little ding dead center at the very top.
Other than that he looks pretty clean.

Steinfeldt has a tough to see wrinkle on his free hand
and a little something going on with the SE in "Series"
on the reverse. Otherwise, nothing I can point to.

We're talking pretty minor stuff on both but that's
what my untrained eye saw when I looked for problems.

They are clearly undergraded and it would be really tough to
say those other two that received twice the grade are comparable
cards when viewed side by side.

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