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Old 12-09-2011, 08:27 AM
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((((Well what I have found is the variations in the set are nearly void of any backs like pied 42))))

From my tracking of Peidmont 42s I have found the following variations come with Pied 42 backs.

Barger - Partial B
Collins - Open mouth
Ford - White cap
Wiltse - Right ear

Their are also ones on back variations

Hoblitzell - name incorrect - no Cin
Hoblitzell - name correct - no Cin
Moran - stray line of type
Wallace - no cap - 2 lines of 1910 stats

Hope this info helps. I have scans of some if needed.

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Old 12-09-2011, 11:18 AM
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((((Well what I have found is the variations in the set are nearly void of any backs like pied 42))))

From my tracking of Peidmont 42s I have found the following variations come with Pied 42 backs.

Barger - Partial B
Collins - Open mouth
Ford - White cap
Wiltse - Right ear

Their are also ones on back variations

Hoblitzell - name incorrect - no Cin
Hoblitzell - name correct - no Cin
Moran - stray line of type
Wallace - no cap - 2 lines of 1910 stats

Hope this info helps. I have scans of some if needed.
I agree with it being for the Eddie because the two others I saw sell before mine were both Pied 42 backs, so that is a good observation and interesting theory and Pied 42 being associated with certain cards that also happen to be rare. Could it be that Pied 42 did not start making cards til the end of the 1911 season?
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Old 12-09-2011, 12:10 PM
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Wiltse and ford are new also for me. I had looked at a lot of hobby's and wallaces, and morans and have never seen the 42's on any of them. I owned a barger partial B 42. post scans if you have any variations with pied 42 wether it be front variations or backs. I am interested in seeing what's out there
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Old 12-09-2011, 12:18 PM
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Could it be that Pied 42 did not start making cards til the end of the 1911 season?



I have briefly discussed with someone before wether or not T205's were even printed in 1911 and not done in 1912-13 time frame with the T-80 cards. We know the 206's stretch into 1911-12 so wouldnt it make sense to finish one run completely before setting up another? I would really step out and boldly say the minor league cards were some of the last printed since they match the t80 style very closely. This is JMO
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Old 12-09-2011, 12:23 PM
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Could it be that Pied 42 did not start making cards til the end of the 1911 season?



I have briefly discussed with someone before wether or not T205's were even printed in 1911 and not done in 1912-13 time frame with the T-80 cards. We know the 206's stretch into 1911-12 so wouldnt it make sense to finish one run completely before setting up another? I would really step out and boldly say the minor league cards were some of the last printed since they match the t80 style very closely. This is JMO
I had heard that T206 ended in the spring of 1911 then Gold border resumed right away. As far as two sets at once, wasn't the T207 and T202 both printed simultaneously in 1912? It would make sense to give people a variety just like how Topps does Bowman now too. Plus I would think it would be a strategy to bury any competetion like maybe American Caramel.
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Old 12-09-2011, 01:01 PM
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Wanted to up date my bucket before posting. I just started saving scans of back so that they can be verified when updating a master list. Hope this info helps.

http://s648.photobucket.com/albums/u...%2042%20backs/

And I only have the correct Hoblitsell scan in bucket sorry and its a bad one at that. My records show both - but would like to hear more, so I can get my records right.

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Old 12-09-2011, 02:06 PM
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Hi John,

Nice group of T205's.

From the scan provided, the Stray Line appears to be a Piedmont 25, not a 42.

Furthermore, I'm almost positive that a Hoblitzell Name Incorrect, No Cin. cannot be found with a Piedmont 42 back. This card is only exists with a Sweet Caporal Red back.

Just looked through my T205's for Piedmont 42's. Only had two others out of about 300 examples: Ford (White Cap) and Chance.

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((((Well what I have found is the variations in the set are nearly void of any backs like pied 42))))

From my tracking of Peidmont 42s I have found the following variations come with Pied 42 backs.

Barger - Partial B
Collins - Open mouth
Ford - White cap
Wiltse - Right ear

Their are also ones on back variations

Hoblitzell - name incorrect - no Cin
Hoblitzell - name correct - no Cin
Moran - stray line of type
Wallace - no cap - 2 lines of 1910 stats

Hope this info helps. I have scans of some if needed.
Hi John,

Thanks for the info regarding Piedmont 42's. Any chance you have a scan of the Hoblitzell Name Incorrect, No Cin. w/ a Piedmont 42 back?

I was always under the impression that the Name Incorrect, No Cin. only existed with a Sweet Caporal Red reverse.

My Collins example:







Regards,

Turner Engle

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