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Old 03-14-2021, 07:22 AM
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The 1952 Topps is getting in nosebleed territory. Last night a PSA 6 sold for $250k in Heartland Auction. Not complaining since I bought a 6 in 2009 for 18k. Back then the 8 was about 75k. I guess there is a rush to acquire one with all this money looking for investments. Can it continue?
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The 1952 Topps is getting in nosebleed territory. Last night a PSA 6 sold for $250k in Heartland Auction. Not complaining since I bought a 6 in 2009 for 18k. Back then the 8 was about 75k. I guess there is a rush to acquire one with all this money looking for investments. Can it continue?
I hesitate to say it can, because it seems like Mantle never loses his value, but there has to be a peak of the market
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The 1952 Topps is getting in nosebleed territory. Last night a PSA 6 sold for $250k in Heartland Auction. Not complaining since I bought a 6 in 2009 for 18k. Back then the 8 was about 75k. I guess there is a rush to acquire one with all this money looking for investments. Can it continue?
1952 is close enough for pre war for the front page for this subject as it encompasses the whole hobby right now. Prices are crazy. That is all I can say. When I look at stuff now I just feel very poor as almost everything I want is out of my range...

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Prices for Mick are wild now. Cost me what I got for a PSA 6 50s Mick last month, just to put a 3.5 of the same card back in my collection. I’ve vowed never to sell Mantle again. Any Mantle card sold is almost a certain regret in the future— and in today’s market that future can be barely a week. I’ve sold some Mantles on the BST here that I deemed superfluous to my collection; they wind up with PWCC stickers the next week selling for triple.
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Prices for Mick are wild now. Cost me what I got for a PSA 6 50s Mick last month, just to put a 3.5 of the same card back in my collection. I’ve vowed never to sell Mantle again. Any Mantle card sold is almost a certain regret in the future— and in today’s market that future can be barely a week. I’ve sold some Mantles on the BST here that I deemed superfluous to my collection; they wind up with PWCC stickers the next week selling for triple.
Yes Mantle seems to be in the buy and hold category, at least until we see all these Wall Street types switch to something else. I am holding my 52 PSA 6 forever and will pass it along to my heirs.
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I passed on picking up the Mantle I need for my project earlier; with the way things are headed, unless there's a correction or I strike oil in my backyard, I may need to go without him. I'm a member of a couple watch collecting forums as well, and the same thing is going on over there. The grey market prices for new Rolexes are absurd, and for vintage Rolexes they've gone through the roof.
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Mantle is like blue chip real estate in prime location, you might overpay now but in few years you'll be glade you have overpaid. Especially the 52 topps and 51 bowman

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I passed on picking up the Mantle I need for my project earlier; with the way things are headed, unless there's a correction or I strike oil in my backyard, I may need to go without him. I'm a member of a couple watch collecting forums as well, and the same thing is going on over there. The grey market prices for new Rolexes are absurd, and for vintage Rolexes they've gone through the roof.
Indeed - watches are my other (and vintage guitars..) obsession besides baseball cards and it’s crazy what is going on in the watch market as well. Very similar...
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His Bowman rookie has gone insane too!
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I agree with Leon, anything I look at that catches my eye is way out of my range.
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I passed on picking up the Mantle I need for my project earlier; with the way things are headed, unless there's a correction or I strike oil in my backyard, I may need to go without him. I'm a member of a couple watch collecting forums as well, and the same thing is going on over there. The grey market prices for new Rolexes are absurd, and for vintage Rolexes they've gone through the roof.
Watches are definitely blowing up. I took a vintage Rolex to a local shop to try to find out some information about it, they gave me no information but several large cash offers. I passed.

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Mantles are always 'elevator grabs.' If you see one at a decent price - even if you're technically 'overpaying' for it - jump on it immediately, because tomorrow the price is going to be much higher, and the next day? Even higher. Up, up and away it will continue to go.
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Old 03-14-2021, 03:42 PM
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Agree...early Mantle cards are beginning to be very tough to come by. Even low grade 52 Topps examples are bringing big money. I remember when a Ruth rookie in a 1 holder could be had for 25k...seems tough now to find a beat up 1952 Topps Mantle for that. Hard to know where they will be at in the years to come...but I would say that the 1952 Topps issue is one of the most iconic cards in the hobby.
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These are the last two cards I would ever sell. At today's prices it's unlikely I will ever upgrade either. And like others I'm glad I picked them up when I did. With all the focus on rising prices across the hobby I still think Ruth and Mantle are undervalued compared to others with room to grow.
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Ruth is a god; I see nothing but upside for Ruth career-issued cards and premiums, which is why I am keeping mine. I have a feeling that 10-15 years from now I will be happy that I did. I think the same is true of Jackie Robinson. He just has more abundant career-issued cards. I am a little less sold on Mantle. I see him as an icon with limited appeal to younger collectors. Though the 1952 Topps card is in a class of its own and seems to have taken on a life separate from the other cards of him.
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Best buy in the hobby right now is 51 bowman mantle. Compared to 52 topps historically (and just about everything else under the sun right now) they’re gold. Pure gold jerry.

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Best buy in the hobby right now is 51 bowman mantle. Compared to 52 topps historically (and just about everything else under the sun right now) they’re gold. Pure gold jerry.

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Totally agree. Even with the hike lately. Still behind . You can still get a PSA 1 or auth under 10k. While the 52 Topps anything decent looking 1 is 30k+
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Gehrig has been pretty hot lately too. I don't think you can go wrong holding any of his cards long term. These are the only 2 I have though.
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These are the last two cards I would ever sell. At today's prices it's unlikely I will ever upgrade either. And like others I'm glad I picked them up when I did. With all the focus on rising prices across the hobby I still think Ruth and Mantle are undervalued compared to others with room to grow.
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Well a nice looking 52 Mantle PSA 1.5 from PWCC just went for 63k+. So yea, Mantles prices are insane! I am going to go ahead and say that a well centered, clean looking 52 Mantle PSA 5 will hit the million mark in less than 5 years. Demand just overwhelm supplies for good looking well centered 51B and 52T Mantles.
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My focus has always been Ruth, Cobb, Johnson, Matty, Wagner, Young and Gehrig. I've been pretty much priced out due to the crazy market. So now I've been focusing on mid-grade 50's HOF'ers. I'm grateful I was able to accumulate what I have, but it's definitely a bummer being regulated to the sidelines.

I'll add, it will be interesting to see if we see a really big spike in Gehrig cards with MLB celebrating him and his struggle with ALS this year.

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Anyone noticed if there have been any Stahl Meyer (53 or 54) Mantles to have come up for sale in these last few crazy months, and whether these too have been tethered to the meteoric price rises?

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I think would sell both for $1MM
Maybe throw in a negative 10% commission
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Done. When can I pick them up?
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Oof, knocked off '51 Bowman Mantle and Mays last year but I think that's it for my former dream card collection. The modern boom paid for some amazing cards last year, was hoping a '52 Mantle would be possible but at this point, it's not looking good!

Then again, I never thought I'd own the '51s so we'll see.
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Interesting on Heritage auction ending tonight.
1952 Mantle graded PSA 3(though looks a lot better) is at $125,000 and the is auction not over. Has to be the highest ever paid for a PSA 3.
Also an off center SGC 3 in same auction at less than $35,000 with some time left.
It seems his cards continue to go up without stopping.
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Interesting on Heritage auction ending tonight.
1952 Mantle graded PSA 3(though looks a lot better) is at $125,000 and the is auction not over. Has to be the highest ever paid for a PSA 3.
Also an off center SGC 3 in same auction at less than $35,000 with some time left.
It seems his cards continue to go up without stopping.
The SGC 3 is up to $50k with the premium. It is very OC.

EDIT: and the very nice looking PSA 3 @ Heritage is going to close for at least $162k. Looks a lot like pokerplyr80's PSA 3.5 above, so congrats to you too!
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The SGC 3 is up to $50k with the premium. It is very OC.
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Looks like 50k for the OC 3 and 156k for the centered 3. They aren't easy to find centered like that though, someone got a great looking card.
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162k and still in OT for the dead centered 3. Heavyweight bout.
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The ship has most likely sailed for me on getting a nice '52 Mantle but was recently able to pick up a very well centered (no creasing) PSA 4 '53 Topps Mantle. What do you guys/gals think of the '53 Topps moving forward?
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The ship has most likely sailed for me on getting a nice '52 Mantle but was recently able to pick up a very well centered (no creasing) PSA 4 '53 Topps Mantle. What do you guys/gals think of the '53 Topps moving forward?
It's a popular card so, yes, it's bound to go up. However, the 53-55 Bowan versions seem to be a bit under the radar currently. The asking prices may have gone up, but on eBay the sales are still somewhat reasonable, at least for the 53 Bowman.
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It's a popular card so, yes, it's bound to go up. However, the 53-55 Bowan versions seem to be a bit under the radar currently. The asking prices may have gone up, but on eBay the sales are still somewhat reasonable, at least for the 53 Bowman.
Which always struck me as crazy since it's an awesome card in a popular set.
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Looks like 50k for the OC 3 and 156k for the centered 3. They aren't easy to find centered like that though, someone got a great looking card.
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162k and still in OT for the dead centered 3. Heavyweight bout.
Hi guys-
I am watching the nice centered 2 (@mileHigh) with 11 days left.
Its at 33K...wondering where it lands???
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I am watching the nice centered 2 (@memLane) with 11 days left.
Its at 33K...wondering where it lands???
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You mean mile high? Memory lane ends in a couple days but they have a couple decent 52s as well.
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Well centered cards is the 1952 Topps set should bring a premium due to many, if not most cards in the set having centering issues. Equally important for me with the Mantle card is clarity...a blue sky with no snow...seems like a snowy sky is a common trait with many of the lower grade Mantle examples...tough to find an affordable copy with a clear sky.

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Yes, the depth and smoothness of color in that blue background is a big deal to me as well on that card, and contributes greatly to eye appeal. Also, sometimes his cap area has some registration blur. When you look at a focused cap card besides one that is blurrier, this aspect can stand out to the eye.
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Im going to guess that the next PSA A 1952 Topps Mantle sells for 27k.
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Im going to guess that the next PSA A 1952 Topps Mantle sells for 27k.
There is one ending in just over 3hrs on ebay. Price 20k currently.

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So the over/under is seven.

The wager is 'what post # in a thread like this will be the first to say 'Glad I picked up a 'XX Mantle/Mays/Ruth/Cobb/etc last year for $YK, as I'm priced out of the market now.'
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So the over/under is seven.

The wager is 'what post # in a thread like this will be the first to say 'Glad I picked up a 'XX Mantle/Mays/Ruth/Cobb/etc last year for $YK, as I'm priced out of the market now.'
Depends on who is going to try, or have to, sell
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So the over/under is seven.

The wager is 'what post # in a thread like this will be the first to say 'Glad I picked up a 'XX Mantle/Mays/Ruth/Cobb/etc last year for $YK, as I'm priced out of the market now.'
I saw last night a Rogers Peer PSA 5 Ruth sold at Goldin that the exact card was bought on here last month. It sold for $8k. I suspect it sold for let’s here then Goldin.
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There is one ending in just over 3hrs on ebay. Price 20k currently.

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Incredible $30,101 for an Authentic Altered.

This is good for many especially those who already have these cards

However, This is pricing many out of the key cards if they are striving for
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However, This is pricing many out of the key cards if they are striving for
This is part of the reaction to rising prices from many I just don't understand.
Where were you guys 20 years ago when there were an endless series of cards I wanted but was priced out of?
30 years ago too to be honest.

It's like there's this thought that says some 'true collector' like which frequents this board is more entitled to a card they desire than anyone else who buys it.

Weird.

There were cards I bought 15 years ago that were a serious stretch to purchase then, but I could easily see there would come a time where that only became more difficult.
Wish someone had told the sellers back then to make it easier on me to fill holes in my collection.
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This is part of the reaction to rising prices from many I just don't understand.
Where were you guys 20 years ago when there were an endless series of cards I wanted but was priced out of?
30 years ago too to be honest.

It's like there's this thought that says some 'true collector' like which frequents this board is more entitled to a card they desire than anyone else who buys it.

Weird.

There were cards I bought 15 years ago that were a serious stretch to purchase then, but I could easily see there would come a time where that only became more difficult.
Wish someone had told the sellers back then to make it easier on me to fill holes in my collection.
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I am not disagreeing with you and I am not saying we or anyone feel entitled. We do not. All I am saying is the spike in prices the last few months have just made it harder for collectors or investors to get what they have wanted.
This is always how it is just the spike the last bunch of months exceeds most trends in the past.
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