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Super Rare T206....EPDG Lundgren (Cubs) on ebay
Posted By: Ted Zanidakis
For anyone is interested in a really RARE T206 front/back combo......a Carl Lundgren (Cubs) with an El Principe de Gales back is |
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Super Rare T206....EPDG Lundgren (Cubs) on ebay
Posted By: Dave S
With all respect Ted, why would you out this auction??!! |
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Super Rare T206....EPDG Lundgren (Cubs) on ebay
Posted By: Frank Evanov
Thanks for the heads-up. |
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Super Rare T206....EPDG Lundgren (Cubs) on ebay
Posted By: cmoking
Ted, does both the KC and the Cubs variation come with an EPDG back? My data is from a while ago, but I had copied from SGC's site that they graded 7 EPDG Carl Lundgren - but they don't separate between the variations. |
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Super Rare T206....EPDG Lundgren (Cubs) on ebay
Posted By: Ted Zanidakis
I'll bet you $$$$ to donuts that all those SGC graded Lundgren's are the KC versions. |
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Super Rare T206....EPDG Lundgren (Cubs) on ebay
Posted By: cmoking
Thanks Ted. For some reason, SGC has software problems in identifying the player poses. For example, they have all the Cobbs populations under the same line. Hopefully some day they'll get that fixed. |
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Super Rare T206....EPDG Lundgren (Cubs) on ebay
Posted By: Martin Neal
Why is it that the toughest card in the T205 set isn't listed in SGC's registry? They do list the Wallace (one line) but not the Hoblitzell (no stats). |
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Super Rare T206....EPDG Lundgren (Cubs) on ebay
Posted By: Ted Zanidakis
DAVE S....."With all respect Ted, why would you out this auction??!!" |
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Super Rare T206....EPDG Lundgren (Cubs) on ebay
Posted By: Dave S
Whatever, Ted...I guess it's how you look at it and what one considers "outing"...obviously u think differently than I do.. |
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Super Rare T206....EPDG Lundgren (Cubs) on ebay
Posted By: MVSNYC
ted- i usually agree with what you say & do...but, i was also surprised to see that you posted a thread about a current auction...i thought it was an unofficial rule or generally understood that it's a no-no...seems like more and more people are doing this... |
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Super Rare T206....EPDG Lundgren (Cubs) on ebay
Posted By: Brian Weisner
Hi King, |
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Super Rare T206....EPDG Lundgren (Cubs) on ebay
Posted By: Ted Zanidakis
As you said...."..seems like more and more people are doing this.."; therefore, I didn't think it was a "no-no". |
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Super Rare T206....EPDG Lundgren (Cubs) on ebay
Posted By: Steve Murray
Now if it was me and I thought I had the only one I would keep it quiet, buy the second one, keep the best one and burn the other. |
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Super Rare T206....EPDG Lundgren (Cubs) on ebay
Posted By: Brian Weisner
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Super Rare T206....EPDG Lundgren (Cubs) on ebay
Posted By: MVSNYC
Ted- let me just say, it's so NOT a big deal...i really don't care...but since the conversation is coming up...here are my views on outing live auctions... |
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Super Rare T206....EPDG Lundgren (Cubs) on ebay
Posted By: Brian
<<so in the end you hurt possibly yourself (if you were intending on bidding on it) or brian or others, who were trying to keep it a little quiet...>> |
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Super Rare T206....EPDG Lundgren (Cubs) on ebay
Posted By: Ted Zanidakis
If I understand your latest post correctly....and, if you are interested in this card....then we have a "Catch-22" situation here. |
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Super Rare T206....EPDG Lundgren (Cubs) on ebay
Posted By: Dave Hornish
Is that 6/7 figure a good estimate of the % of non-web savvy T206 and old time collectors? It would not surprise me if 75-80% are in that category on the pre war stuff but what day you all? |
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Super Rare T206....EPDG Lundgren (Cubs) on ebay
Posted By: Rick McQuillan
It may not seem like a big deal, but if "outing" an auction only brings in 1 or 2 additional bidders who would not have aware of a particular card, these 1 or 2 bidders could drastically affect the closing price. |
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Super Rare T206....EPDG Lundgren (Cubs) on ebay
Posted By: CN
THE MAIN REASON OUTING AN AUCTION IS WRONG IS THAT THE PERSON OUTING THE AUCTION MIGHT HAVE A PERSONAL STAKE IN THE AUCTION. IN THIS CASE TED WAS ENTHUSED TO SEE A RARE CARD AND FELT THE NEED TO LET OTHERS KNOW ABOUT. THIS GIVES EVERYONE A FAIR SHOT AT IT NOT JUST THE COMPUTER SAVVY MEMBERS. I AM NOT A FAN OF OUTING AUCTIONS WHILE STILL ONGOING BUT WHAT TED DID WAS TRY TO SHARE SOME INFORMATION ABOUT A RARE CARD. CN |
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Super Rare T206....EPDG Lundgren (Cubs) on ebay
Posted By: MVSNYC
ted- like i said no big deal... |
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Super Rare T206....EPDG Lundgren (Cubs) on ebay
Posted By: cmoking
Brian, thanks for the link, that's a really great looking card, congrats! |
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Super Rare T206....EPDG Lundgren (Cubs) on ebay
Posted By: Dave S
I shared Ted's enthusiasm on the card, and I'm not trying to beat a dead horse here...or making any personal vendetta against Ted...but consider this: |
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Super Rare T206....EPDG Lundgren (Cubs) on ebay
Posted By: Eric
Make that $810 |
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Super Rare T206....EPDG Lundgren (Cubs) on ebay
Posted By: MVSNYC
i'm sure jaysace now shares Ted's enthusiasm too... |
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Super Rare T206....EPDG Lundgren (Cubs) on ebay
Posted By: barrysloate
Ted- I had at least two examples of Lundgren with EPDG over the years, so I wouldn't think it was that impossible. |
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Super Rare T206....EPDG Lundgren (Cubs) on ebay
Posted By: Jason Duncan
Hey all Ted is a stand up great guy who is just excited to share his knowledge with the board. If I hear one more person whimper up then I will out all of the hidden gems on ebay! ;) |
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Super Rare T206....EPDG Lundgren (Cubs) on ebay
Posted By: Ted Zanidakis
HEY GUYS.... |
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Super Rare T206....EPDG Lundgren (Cubs) on ebay
Posted By: barrysloate
Ted- didn't you get yours from me, a very long time ago? |
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Super Rare T206....EPDG Lundgren (Cubs) on ebay
Posted By: leon
I usually pick a card that is a featured item, which is at the top of the category all of the time so it's not too "outed"....However, I get carte blanche since it's house rules |
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Super Rare T206....EPDG Lundgren (Cubs) on ebay
Posted By: Ted Zanidakis
You might be correct, that I bought my Lundgren from you. I do recall that I wanted to get an EPDG back. |
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Super Rare T206....EPDG Lundgren (Cubs) on ebay
Posted By: barrysloate
Point well taken. 4 appearances is pretty rare indeed. |
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Super Rare T206....EPDG Lundgren (Cubs) on ebay
Posted By: Frank Wakefield
Seems to me that winning an auction should be a matter of money. The folks who whine about outing an auction want to inject a game aspect of it, kinda like Hide and Seek. I understand why they'd be upset... sure, I'd love it if I was the only bidder every time I bid on something on eBay, or other auctions. I've posted recently about how I don't see that outing an auction is such a big crime. |
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Super Rare T206....EPDG Lundgren (Cubs) on ebay
Posted By: Brian Weisner
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Super Rare T206....EPDG Lundgren (Cubs) on ebay
Posted By: cmoking
Maybe not as tough as previously thought. A second one auctioned off within a couple of weeks? |
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Super Rare T206....EPDG Lundgren (Cubs) on ebay
Posted By: David R
I had the same questions. It's hard to tell with PSA because they don't differentiate by the back, but I know for a lot of my EPDGs, the SGC population reports show very low populations of EPDGs: |
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Super Rare T206....EPDG Lundgren (Cubs) on ebay
Posted By: Ted Zanidakis
Very nice card....but, I still contend that this Lundgren/Cubs/EPDG card is extremely scarce. |
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Super Rare T206....EPDG Lundgren (Cubs) on ebay
Posted By: Jeff Kennedy
So who won it??? I am sure that it was a fellow board member after all the hype that it got here a couple weeks ago. |
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Super Rare T206....EPDG Lundgren (Cubs) on ebay
Posted By: cmoking
Ted, I agree with you, seems to happen to me too. But I think its a matter of memory - we remember when the second one comes about because we're kicking ourselves for paying such a high price on the first. If a second one doesn't show up, we forget about it. Its the same syndrome as "I'm so unlucky, I remember all the bad things that's happened to me" (meanwhile, forgetting about all the good things). I know I fall into that trap from time to time. |
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Super Rare T206....EPDG Lundgren (Cubs) on ebay
Posted By: Pat R.
The guy who brought this card and thread to life is what this hobby should be all about. T-Rex is all about the passion of the cards and the game........and not the $$$$. I still think I am the "high-scorer" on his pin-ball machine. |
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Super Rare T206....EPDG Lundgren (Cubs) on ebay
Posted By: Frank Wakefield
Nice post, Pat. That is part of why I see no great sin in 'outing' an auction. Let me get this right in my head, outing an auction where a card has problems so it helps bidders but is bad for the seller is acceptable; but outing an auction on a small treasure so it helps the seller but increases competition for the bidders is unacceptable. Nuts! |
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Super Rare T206....EPDG Lundgren (Cubs) on ebay
Posted By: Matt
Frank said: |
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Super Rare T206....EPDG Lundgren (Cubs) on ebay
Posted By: Ted Zanidakis
Really great to see your post here......I know that you are an occasional "reader" of Net54.....and, thanks for the kind words. |
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Super Rare T206....EPDG Lundgren (Cubs) on ebay
Posted By: Jeff Kennedy
Ted- I echo your sentiments in regards to the likes of Pat R. He was one of my first "true" friends in the hobby and I dearly miss the likes of him on this board. So much has changed around here with the board and the hobby itself and seeing Pat post makes me wish things were like they use to be. Geez....that is pretty darn sentimental. |
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Super Rare T206....EPDG Lundgren (Cubs) on ebay
Posted By: dennis
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Super Rare T206....EPDG Lundgren (Cubs) on ebay
Posted By: Ted Zanidakis
Thanks for the link....very informative and with some nice pictures. |
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Super Rare T206....EPDG Lundgren (Cubs) on ebay
Posted By: Keyway
Just took out my Lundgren with EPDG back, Cubs on shirt. Graded SGC 30. |
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Super Rare T206....EPDG Lundgren (Cubs) on ebay
Posted By: Ted Zanidakis
KEYWAY |
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Super Rare T206....EPDG Lundgren (Cubs) on ebay
Posted By: Ted Zanidakis
We are starting to see exactly what I referred to as the ""bunching syndrome".....or phenomena. |
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Super Rare T206....EPDG Lundgren (Cubs) on ebay
Posted By: keyway
Ted; I have had that card since the mid 80's. Just sent it to be graded with a bunch of others about 6 months ago. Have been a collector since 1980. Love the old stuff. |
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