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Curious to get thoughts on this one which just ended tonight for $2300 (plus $5.70 for standard shipping )

Orig 1911 VANDERBILT CUP AUTO RACE Souvenir PENNANT 34" Savannah Georgia

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It seems way off to me (despite the sellers guaranteed authenticity). It's very white for 110 years old. Also interesting, it looks nothing like 1910 or 1912 Vanderbilt Cup pennants, neither of which has sewn on letters or images. In fact there is another 1911 Cup pennant that does closely resemble the 1910 and 1912 pennants (and it sold for $5700+ on ebay about 10 years ago). No pin holes seems unlikely as well. Lastly, the image of the car in tonights auction shows only a single driver, while all other pennants have two in the car. I don't know enough about the race or these pennants to know for sure but I see enough red flags that I wouldn't have bid on it. Also below are the other 1910 thru 1912 Vanderbilt Cup pennants...
I saw that too, but I didnít see what it ended at. I thought it was legit as that was a common style for that era. I understand what you mean about different styles, but I think itís good. Just my opinion.
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The Yankees pennant is early 70ís utilizing the older styles. That style was used from the 50ís all the way to I guess the 70ís. The pennant needs to be dated on the material and stitching. Generally these pennants were already using synthetic stitching for the piping, but not all. The earliest of synthetic pennants still used regular fabric string / thread for stitching the piping.
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Any ideas about the manufacturer of the Yankees pennant?
The Yankees pennant, I believe, is by ADFLAG. I think it may have been made somewhere in the 1960s.

The "New York" script matches other known ADFLAG pennants from that era for the Yankees and (AFL) Jets.
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The Yankees pennant, I believe, is by ADFLAG. I think it may have been made somewhere in the 1960s.

The "New York" script matches other known ADFLAG pennants from that era for the Yankees and (AFL) Jets.
Thanks. I was thinking it had to be made somewhere before 1969, otherwise it would have the MLB logo.
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Thanks. I was thinking it had to be made somewhere before 1969, otherwise it would have the MLB logo.
What pushed me later initially was that it's warped. 1970s material is more prone to warping than 1960s material. At the end of the day, pennant dating is like horseshoes and hand grenades....close counts and is as good as we'll ever get unless it's dated.
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