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Old 09-24-2022, 02:23 AM
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Default Crazy BST Prices

I feel for the most part people are willing to work with one another on 54...especially if it is going towards a personal collection...that being said I also understand people that are on here to just make a buck and use it as a revenue stream. What I need to vent about...as my usual self would love to post a snarky comment ...is guys posting crazy prices...for example..I saw a PSA 2 card today...modern/vintage..HOF...All Time Great...but not Mantle...NOT rare...and asking 116% of high becket...when a card graded 4 in sold for 67% the same day or so.

Again I get not all grades are created equal and some prefer a number ...while others prefer cetering...blah blah blah...but how wacko do you have to be to ask over BV for a 2....when ebay and BST comps are 1/2 BV...which I still feel is crazy for a very easy to find card...Serenity NOWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!

I've just been seeing this more with sub 5 grades which I consider sub-par...and people asking over ungraded ExMt/NrMt comps...it cant be registry...ugh
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Old 09-24-2022, 05:40 AM
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Do people still use Beckett?


I've seen sellers list stuff here and EBay for the same price, then ask for F&F on top of that. I just move on, life's too short.
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Old 09-24-2022, 06:08 AM
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The market sorts it all out in the end.
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Old 09-24-2022, 08:33 AM
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Some folks have cards they do not want to sell unless they get X. Others want the card but don't want to pay X. Sometimes the market rises to X, or someone wants it enough to pay X....and sometimes not
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I feel for the most part people are willing to work with one another on 54...especially if it is going towards a personal collection...that being said I also understand people that are on here to just make a buck and use it as a revenue stream. What I need to vent about...as my usual self would love to post a snarky comment ...is guys posting crazy prices...for example..I saw a PSA 2 card today...modern/vintage..HOF...All Time Great...but not Mantle...NOT rare...and asking 116% of high becket...when a card graded 4 in sold for 67% the same day or so.

Again I get not all grades are created equal and some prefer a number ...while others prefer cetering...blah blah blah...but how wacko do you have to be to ask over BV for a 2....when ebay and BST comps are 1/2 BV...which I still feel is crazy for a very easy to find card...Serenity NOWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!

I've just been seeing this more with sub 5 grades which I consider sub-par...and people asking over ungraded ExMt/NrMt comps...it cant be registry...ugh
My favorite are the auction listings that have a starting price higher than eBay BIN listings. They never sell but they do sure clog up the auction section.
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My favorite are the auction listings that have a starting price higher than eBay BIN listings. They never sell but they do sure clog up the auction section.
Right.....same with the sellers that list $1 cards for $15K.....
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My favorite are the auction listings that have a starting price higher than eBay BIN listings. They never sell but they do sure clog up the auction section.
about 3 per day too!
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I don't know many who use book or Beckett values as a standard anymore, when there is so much real time auction house sales data and eBay sold listings just at your fingertips. Maybe those folks are asking too much or maybe they aren't.
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Old 09-27-2022, 01:01 PM
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sadly people can ask for whatever price they want

WE also have the right to not accept their price, counter offer, etc.

Regarding Beckett I am not a big fan of theirs but they do have a good rep but people perceive there items as less valuable than PSA.

But if you want a card and/or it is rare sometimes you have to take it in the slab you find it (and then leave it, break the slab, or get it re-slabbed
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Sometimes what is crazy today might not be as crazy the next day.

I had an item for sale earlier this year - a 53/54 Briggs Meats Mays, just straight PSA authentic. Admittedly, they're not easy to find. Pre-pandemic, when they sold, it was usually $1.5k or $2k. I was asking $9k on eBay. Sat and sat and sat. A few offers rolled in from time to time, usually someone trying to score a deal, and one or two willing to get kinda sorta close. Eventually, someone came along and was willing to pay my price.

About a month later, one popped up at a major auction house. By the time the bidding was over, it went for over $12k.
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especially if it is going towards a personal collection...
I always get a chuckle when people bring this up in a negotiation. I don't care what you do with the card: put it in a personal collection, roll weed with it and smoke it, flush it down the toilet...all irrelevancies. If anything, the fact that it is for a PC rather than for sale justifies my asking for a higher price.

On the flip side, I also laugh at sellers who won't take a market offer because they are "into it for more." Thats a "you" problem; the buyer is not responsible for your lousy business acumen.
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