E102 (Set of Twenty Five) Dougherty missing red pass?

[Leon]

We have spoken about this before but as I was putting it into my collection I looked closer at it. I think last time it was determined that the different color might be attributed to whatever it is that is staining the back. However, with it in hand I don't think that is the case. I think it might be missing a red color pass. Thoughts?...

[I Only Smoke 4 the Cards]

The colors don't look that vivid. Could it be UV bleaching?


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[Leon]

Originally Posted by I Only Smoke 4 the Cards

The colors don't look that vivid. Could it be UV bleaching?


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Could be but then I would think other parts would be more off, in color. I added a regular card too for comparison

[Luke]

Looks to me like an example of glue on the back dulling red on the front. But you're more knowledgeable than I am, and you have it in hand...

[I Only Smoke 4 the Cards]

Originally Posted by Leon

Could be but then I would think other parts would be more off, in color. I added a regular card too for comparison

I think it may be UV damage. If you look at the black on your card it appears have a tinge of blue. This looks pretty uniform throughout the card.


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[I Only Smoke 4 the Cards]

Originally Posted by LukeLyon

Looks to me like an example of glue on the back dulling red on the front. But you're more knowledgeable than I am, and you have it in hand...

Luke - I have heard several people mention this happening. Can you educate me on how this occurs?


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[sebie43]

His lack of a rosy cheek is very interesting. I doubt UV as I think it would affect all of the colors somewhat evenly.

[obcmac]

If it is stained, it's not a legitimate color variation/missing pass. That goes double for missing reds. That's the rule I follow for my own collection.

Mac

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by sebie43

His lack of a rosy cheek is very interesting. I doubt UV as I think it would affect all of the colors somewhat evenly.

I do not know about this type of card but UV light does affect different colors differently. Certain years cards it is possible to completely fade one color off a card with no fading to the other colors.

My guess is also UV damage because the color change is so uniform.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by obcmac

If it is stained, it's not a legitimate color variation/missing pass. That goes double for missing reds. That's the rule I follow for my own collection.

Mac

I have seen quite a few different kinds of stains, chemicals and so forth. I dunno for sure but it still looks like it's missing a red color pass to me. If the stain on back was causing the color issue on the front then the other front colors would have been affected, I would think. Also, the point about the missing red in the cheek area is true too. I had my mind made up the color variation was from the back issue, but the more I look(ed) at it the more I thought it is just missing an ink pass. I am not ascribing any extra value to it but I believe it's a missing color card. I could be wrong of course...

and I have to add that I agree with Mac....I am very skeptical of red variations. It seems to be the most volatile color besides black.