Bobby Veach original photos advice

[BuzzD]

Attached are 2 identical photos of Bobby Veach. The first is dated May 1925 and noted as NYAL with International Newsreel credit; the second is dated Oct 1925 with Conlon/Cleveland News credit and reference to Washington.

I cant figure out if both or neither are real. He did play early in year for NY and later to Washington. But the credits throw me off. Could be Conlon sold it to International Newsreel without his own credit?

(The Veach label on the 2nd one is on a picture frame not originally on the photo)

[prewarsports]

Both appear to be Type 1 photos. We know Conlon worked with other companies sometimes but even his well publicized relationship with Underwood at a few times in his career is a huge mystery. Sports photographers back then were employees of newspapers so if their editor wanted to share photos, thats what happened.

[prewarsports]

Also, looks like a Babe Ruth photo-bomb in the background!

[BuzzD]

As I look at these more closely, they are not identical. Note the stadium tier in background is level in one shot and at a pretty good angle in the other shot. Figure in background at right is also closer to the border than in the other photo. Maybe from same negative but just printed at slightly different angles

[BuzzD]

On second thought, they seem like 2 different photos like taken at same or nearly same time.

I like idea that Ruth is in background!

[drcy]

Back then, news services rarely credited/listed the photographer.

For old news photos and Hollywood photos, you can do research to try and figure out the photographer, and it's often someone famouse. For movie stills, you can look up the movie and see who were the photographers

[mr2686]

Looks like the same negative but cropped slightly different during printing.