All Rise! INDEED!

[clydepepper]

I've never been a Yankees fan, but this is amazing to witness:

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/...ts-best-starts

[bk400]

Originally Posted by clydepepper

I've never been a Yankees fan, but this is amazing to witness:

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/...ts-best-starts

If he can win a ring, I think he will be on the Mount Rusmore of the Yankees.

[BobbyStrawberry]

Quite a start he's having. I'll still take Ohtani over him as a hitter though

[John1941]

Originally Posted by BobbyStrawberry

Quite a start he's having. I'll still take Ohtani over him as a hitter though

Do you mean to say you'd take Ohtani over him as a complete player? I could see that, given Ohtani's pitching and relative youth - can't see preferring Ohtani as a hitter alone.

[John1941]

As a Yankees fan whose favorite player is Aaron Judge, I rejoice to see that not only is Judge not slowing down, he's getting better.

[yanksfan09]

Originally Posted by John1941

As a Yankees fan whose favorite player is Aaron Judge, I rejoice to see that not only is Judge not slowing down, he's getting better.

Over the past year, the only person whos ever had a stretch like this current one is Ruth. Pretty remarkable!

He's the best natural hitter I think I'll ever see in my life, although his late start to his career won't lead to the same career accumulations as others. His peak ability is rivaled by maybe a handful in history, maybe! I can't give credibility to Bonds post juice stats and Judges numbers now destroy Bonds pre juice numbers.

Would love to see him get a ring but Cashman and ownership need to make some big moves. The Cole injury is killer but they gotta act. They don't have a legit 3rd baseman and the staff is in shambles outside of Fried and Rodon. Awfully hard to compete with the Dodgers and their control over all of Japans talent and the insane staff they have.

[packs]

Originally Posted by BobbyStrawberry

Quite a start he's having. I'll still take Ohtani over him as a hitter though

How come?

Ohtani is no slouch but his OPS+ last year during his 50/50 season was 189. He did lead the NL but when you look at Judge, his OPS+ was an otherworldly 223.

Very few people have posted an OPS+ over 200 and Judge was at 223. During his 62 homer season his OPS+ was also 210.

[yanksfan09]

Every thread needs some cards!

[John1941]

Originally Posted by yanksfan09

Every thread needs some cards!

Fantastic Judge collection!

[BobbyStrawberry]

Originally Posted by John1941

Do you mean to say you'd take Ohtani over him as a complete player? I could see that, given Ohtani's pitching and relative youth - can't see preferring Ohtani as a hitter alone.

Originally Posted by packs

How come?

Ohtani is no slouch but his OPS+ last year during his 50/50 season was 189. He did lead the NL but when you look at Judge, his OPS+ was an otherworldly 223.

Very few people have posted an OPS+ over 200 and Judge was at 223. During his 62 homer season his OPS+ was also 210.

Judge has had the two monster seasons (and possibly another one going now) but the way I was thinking of it was, say you're starting a franchise right now: you have the choice between Judge and Ohtani, who are you taking? I'm taking Ohtani even without the pitching...more versatile, more consistently available and several years younger.

It's certainly debatable though, just my preference

[Pat R]

When I saw the thread I thought it was going to be about the 100 year old Iwo Jima survivor singing the national anthem at the Nascar race in Texas on sunday.

[packs]

Originally Posted by BobbyStrawberry

Judge has had the two monster seasons (and possibly another one going now) but the way I was thinking of it was, say you're starting a franchise right now: you have the choice between Judge and Ohtani, who are you taking? I'm taking Ohtani even without the pitching...more versatile, more consistently available and several years younger.

It's certainly debatable though, just my preference

To each their own for sure. I will say though it is really fun watching Judge play center when he’s out there. Not too many guys his size could do that.

[BobbyStrawberry]

Originally Posted by packs

To each their own for sure. I will say though it is really fun watching Judge play center when he’s out there. Not too many guys his size could do that.

He's definitely a giant (Yankee) out there!

[yanksfan09]

Originally Posted by John1941

Fantastic Judge collection!

Thanks!

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by BobbyStrawberry

Judge has had the two monster seasons (and possibly another one going now) but the way I was thinking of it was, say you're starting a franchise right now: you have the choice between Judge and Ohtani, who are you taking? I'm taking Ohtani even without the pitching...more versatile, more consistently available and several years younger.

It's certainly debatable though, just my preference

If you told me Ohtani is going to pitch again, I would take Judge, because I have no faith Ohtani will stay healthy as a pitcher.

[BobbyStrawberry]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

If you told me Ohtani is going to pitch again, I would take Judge, because I have no faith Ohtani will stay healthy as a pitcher.

The Dodgers might feel the same. They are taking it almost absurdly slow with him.

[jthorst75]

[bk400]

Ohtani versus Judge to anchor a team is always a fun debate. I've had my share or beers at the bar discussing that one.

Here's my Mount Rushmore of Yankees.
In chronological order:

Gehrig
DiMaggio
Mickey Mantle
Derek Jeter

Honorable Mention: Babe Ruth, Yogi Berra and Mariano Rivera

Note that I value captaincies and WS rings more highly than individual stats, though individual stats are still important. Babe Ruth was stripped of his position as team captain for poor behavior, which in some ways is worse than never being a captain at all. After Gehrig died, the owner said there would never be another Yankee captain. That was the case until Steinbrenner bought the team. Jeter is the only modern captain in the HOF, and he has five rings.

[Exhibitman]

Both Judge and Ohtani are worth the money so far.

[bk400]

Yeah, f**king Ohtani. He had a decent night.