1980-present variations

[TAVG]

figured id post some of the variations ive found...or printing errors. really new to this, even though ive collected cards most of my life (20+yrs)

[bnorth]

Cool cards. Plus it was about time someone started this type thread over here.
Here is one of my favorites a 1989 Fleer Bill Ripken. This is known as the Bulls Eye version from the yellow and red spot on his arm.

The card cut from the sheet has a nice yellow circle in the 7 on his uniform and the Desert Storm card is just super cool looking.

[mrmopar]

I took a recent interest in these types of cards after seeing a number of true variations that I was never really aware of, such as the Inc and Inc. on the late 80s/early 90s Donruss cards. Of course the trick is to have enough of any one card to find anything different between them. Also, are those flaws unique to a few cards or are they on ALL of the cards?

Aside from Garvey variations to add to the collection, and he missed the bulk of what I have discovered in the late 80s/early 90s, I really didn't necessarily care a whole lot if I had these for other players, then I thought about all the extra Dodger cards I had from years of buying lots. I started going through them and was finding a fair number of both the "real" variations (* or **, Inc or Inc., letter or no letter on back, etc) as well as the print flaws that you are showing here. I found a number of print dots and ink color differences that almost certainly have to show up in a percentage of the print run, but sometimes they seemed like they would have to be unique. With the Dodgers, there was a lot of blue ink and sometimes you could see more reddish or purple tones. I noticed hats and jerseys that were definitely not like the rest of the cards I had even if it was slight.

I found a lot of print dots in the 85-89 Topps, mainly because I had a pretty good sample size of a lot of the cards. Sometimes the differences were tough to spot and sometimes that jumped out. I hope to scan some once I finish sorting them all out. It's been a slow go, as I need really good light and I have been relying on the natural light from outside, but that only allows a limited timeframe in which to work and only if it is not overcast (and I live in WA). I am in the Ws now.

[bnorth]

Some more from the 89 Fleer set. Rafael Belliard has a pink stripe by the S on his jersey. Tommy John has a blue spot on his neck. Guillermo Hernandez has a pink moose head by his shoulder. Tom Henke has a black strip over the A in Jays on his jersey. With a little searching all these are easily found.

[bnorth]

A pair of Randy Johnson rookies with print dots in the stadium.

[bnorth]

Here is 2 more from the 89 Fleer set. This is pretty much the only modern set I collect this stuff from and mainly just Bill Ripken, Randy Johnson, and Ken Griffey Jr.

For a person that collects the weird suff this Ripken has it all. Nice print offset, real factory saw cut, a huge diamond factory miscut and it says F*ck Face twice.

The Griffey has what looks like a womens fertility symbol on the inside of his left wrist.

[mrmopar]

Bought some cheap boxes to rip today and pulled this. i was lucky to even notice it, but the grey box caught my eye when i opened the pack. Sure enough, it was not right and the correct version has the black box. The rest of the back has a washed out look too, as there is a lack of black ink all around. No other cards in the box looked like this. For those of you with organized cards, see if you have this or others like it.

[tschock]

I love these 1997 Leaf cards. The cards were stamped as you can see the indentation, but the foil was not applied.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/6tqSHI.jpg

[rgpete]

Ken Griffey Jr a print spot on his pants leg

[insidethewrapper]

1981 Topps # 453 Rob Wilfong ( No black line on top).

[Cliff Bowman]

Originally Posted by insidethewrapper

1981 Topps # 453 Rob Wilfong ( No black line on top).

That’s one of the 1981 Topps double print missing border cards, there are about 25 that I know of. Some are completely missing the top border line and others have varying degrees of partially missing top border lines. Why it only affected cards in the double print horizontal rows I have no clue. There are also quite a few 1979 Topps double print cards with the same flaw, no clue why it only affects the double printed rows. I will post some scans when I get a chance.

[ALR-bishop]

I think I have 20 of them, or thereabouts. Several as a result of Cliff's generosity

[rgpete]

Originally Posted by rgpete

Ken Griffey Jr a print spot on his pants leg

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[RonSportscards]

Mixed in a card lot I won at auction, was a '91 Topps baseball Desert Shield card. Took out the ole black light to find it was a glow back.

So are all the Desert Shield cards glow backs?

Also do the Desert Shield cards have a mix of light and bold anniversary logos on the back, like the base Topps baseball set?

[jacksoncoupage]

Originally Posted by RonSportscards

Mixed in a card lot I won at auction, was a '91 Topps baseball Desert Shield card. Took out the ole black light to find it was a glow back.

So are all the Desert Shield cards glow backs?

Also do the Desert Shield cards have a mix of light and bold anniversary logos on the back, like the base Topps baseball set?

They are all glow backs but I believe a handful of anomalies have been found by members here.

All A* and B* sheet players have bold logos. Any from those sheets with a normal 40th logo are fakes.

[Deertick]

Originally Posted by tschock

I love these 1997 Leaf cards. The cards were stamped as you can see the indentation, but the foil was not applied.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/6tqSHI.jpg

I have at least 69 without the foil stamping of the name. You can see where the die came down on some, but not on others. So some were attempted but they must have run out of the foil, an others not attempted at all. All are different players, and the only one I was able to find referenced on the interweb is unique also. All cards are from Series 1. Not sure if it matters, but cards run from #13 to #214.

[insidethewrapper]

I don't know if this is old news but as I was sorting thru some 1984 Donruss cards I noticed this card came in 5 variations. They are all "Steel" backs.
1) No marks at top, 2) "L" shaped lines at top right corner, 3) Line at both top corners, 4) line at right top corner only , 5) Line at left top corner only. Various sizes of the lines are visable, based on the sheet cut at the factory.

[jacksoncoupage]

Originally Posted by insidethewrapper

I don't know if this is old news but as I was sorting thru some 1984 Donruss cards I noticed this card came in 5 variations. They are all "Steel" backs.
1) No marks at top, 2) "L" shaped lines at top right corner, 3) Line at both top corners, 4) line at right top corner only , 5) Line at left top corner only. Various sizes of the lines are visable, based on the sheet cut at the factory.

These aren’t variations, they are guides for cutting the cards from sheets. This is why you only see them on severe top to bottom miscuts.

[ALR-bishop]

But do make some cards more interesting

[steve B]

I'd still count them. They're intentional marks put on the plate, and are different on different plates or different positions on the same plate.

And now I have to go look for them....sort of.

[jacksoncoupage]

Originally Posted by steve B

I'd still count them. They're intentional marks put on the plate, and are different on different plates or different positions on the same plate.

And now I have to go look for them....sort of.

I really wanted this to be true but I’m not seeing what you are.

The lines are only visible due to a top to bottom miscut weighed heavily to the top. There aren’t any examples with the lines visible on a normally cut card with 50/50 centering.

Am I missing something?

[4reals]

1981 common box “finds”

Poquette reoccurring red diagonal line



Jeff Cox single and double border break





Sakata reoccurring extra vertical border line












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[Jcfowler6]

Was plowing thru a bunch of junk wax and found this guy. Missing “Twins” and “Topps”.


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[ALR-bishop]

Good one Jon

[philliesfan]

Not sure if this was posted before but I just found this James Silas name in Black and name in Purple....spelled JAMS not James at my friends card shop.
1980 J Silas Name in BLK and PURP.jpg

[philliesfan]

Don't know if this would qualify in terms as a variation but check out my Nolan Ryan miscut.
Bob
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[bnorth]

Originally Posted by philliesfan

Don't know if this would qualify in terms as a variation but check out my Nolan Ryan miscut.
Bob
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Nice card for many reasons, I like oddball cards like that.

[jacksoncoupage]

Originally Posted by philliesfan

Don't know if this would qualify in terms as a variation but check out my Nolan Ryan miscut.
Bob
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As stated above, very nice card and for several reasons!

[ALR-bishop]

I bet that it being a Nolan Ryan card is one of the reasons

Maybe that weird stuff on the back might be another ?

Cool card

[Cliff Bowman]

Originally Posted by Jcfowler6

Was plowing thru a bunch of junk wax and found this guy. Missing “Twins” and “Topps”.

Fantastic find. Harper was on the right edge of the 1990 Topps B sheet of the 6th row, the Brantley above him and the Cochrane to his left should have also been affected to some degree.

[West]

Sweet error!

[richtree]

Originally Posted by Cliff Bowman

Fantastic find. Harper was on the right edge of the 1990 Topps B sheet of the 6th row, the Brantley above him and the Cochrane to his left should have also been affected to some degree.

Interested if u wanna move this one...

Rt

[4reals]

1982 Topps Stolen Base Leaders #164, ink bleed on back





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[4reals]

1982 Topps #703 “leaf cap”. Half the fun is naming them.




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[4reals]

1981 Topps Barry Evans #72 (blob on hat)




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[4reals]

My 1986 Topps Fielder sequence. Partial border missing. #2 is the most difficult to find.





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[butchie_t]

Nice finds Joe.....you are killing me Smalls!

[jacksoncoupage]

Originally Posted by 4reals

My 1986 Topps Fielder sequence. Partial border missing. #2 is the most difficult to find.





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Great find!

Many, many years ago, early into my variation obsession, I sorted a few 3200cts of 1986 Topps and found about a dozen or so players with recurring black ink issues on the reverse: partial or missing stats, bio info, etc. Similar to this where some had three distinct misprinting types. I can't recall who they were now but it seems like 1986 had a lot of black plate problems.

[butchie_t]

I picked up this little gem yesterday. It will stay entombed.

Some see print defects while others see variations. YMMV!

The scratches on the front are on the slab and not the card

Cheers,

Butch

[G1911]

Little more than a print dot! That's a cool one. The Donruss is my favorite of the early Griffey's for some reason.

[butchie_t]

Originally Posted by G1911

Little more than a print dot! That's a cool one. The Donruss is my favorite of the early Griffey's for some reason.

It looks more natural than the UD and I believe has a better upside too.

Thanks,

Butch

[4reals]

Just realized every 1980 Topps Goose Gossage card is missing black ink at the top right border. I suppose this would be the rare occurrence where a copy of it printed correctly would be the scarce print variation. I haven’t yet seen one.




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[jacksoncoupage]

Originally Posted by 4reals

Just realized every 1980 Topps Goose Gossage card is missing black ink at the top right border. I suppose this would be the rare occurrence where a copy of it printed correctly would be the scarce print variation. I haven’t yet seen one.




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Cool! I wonder who his neighbor is. Can't find a photo of the D* sheet.

[Cliff Bowman]

Originally Posted by jacksoncoupage

Cool! I wonder who his neighbor is. Can't find a photo of the D* sheet.

It’s Mark Wagner and his border lines are normal.

[jacksoncoupage]

Originally Posted by Cliff Bowman

It’s Mark Wagner and his border lines are normal.

Thanks Cliff!

[4reals]

Likely not a print roller mistake as all are like that and adjoining card is not. Probably a design mistake effecting every example.


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[4reals]

1982 Ted Simmons #150. Line under 1972. I threw up a second copy I own to show it is reoccurring. **EDIT** after a quick visit to COMC it appears this is already a variation known by collectors, I was apparently in the dark on it.





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[swarmee]

But yours also has a second line in the 1969 year. Is that live ink or a possible 2nd recurring variation?

[4reals]

Not live ink but 82 seems to consistently have dark fibers in their card stock throughout the set. This looks like one of those “eyelash” fibers.


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[swarmee]

I thought of that, but I figured it was too coincidental because of the black line below it.