Hall of Fame Early Baseball Committee

[CardCollector]

Looks like the Early Days committee won't meet for another year: https://www.mlb.com/news/hall-of-fam...eduled-to-2021. Who do folks think are most deserving? I'd vote for Dahlen, Glasscock, and Caruthers, in no particular order. It seems like whoever gets in will see a significant bounce in card value.

[riggs336]

Those three are at the top of my list as well.

[Jason19th]

If I am correct the early baseball committee is 1950 and prior. If I am correct here are my two off the wall picks that seem just crazy until you consider them ( and in all honesty are probably still crazy) These are two players who were so far ahead of their times that they were not even considered stars but would probably be considered two of the best players in the league if they played today

1. Fred Firpo Marberry - the first great relief pitcher. Retroactively lead the league in saves four times and per Bill James was the second most valuable pitcher of his era after Lefty Grove

2. Max Bishop - . 423 on base from 1924-35, new the value of a walk before Billy Bean

Do yourselves a favor and look these guys up on baseball reference

[ejharrington]

Ross Barnes

[Jason19th]

Originally Posted by ejharrington

Ross Barnes

My issue with Barnes is that he basically hit over 400 because he was good at hit the ball so it first hit in play and then spun foul. Under the rules he was playing that was considered a live ball. When the NL was established and considered this to a foul ball, Barnes who was still just 29 hit 260

[CardCollector]

Caruthers had a few years of utter dominance and his WAR numbers are off the charts: https://www.thebaseballgauge.com/pla...erID=carutbo01. He'd be like the baseball equivalent of Terrell Davis (who, incidentally, I think totally warrants Canton membership).

[packs]

It is time to finally right the wrong in Harry Stovey's exclusion. There was no finer player in his time and he is the prototype for all modern day sluggers. It is criminal he's not in, and before anyone mentions the AA as a set back, it's not like the NL was the only standard of the time. It just survived.

[Casey2296]

Is for Red Murray even though his 7 year career was tragically cut short by a bolt of Lightning while making the final out in a 21-inning contest in 1914.

[Ricky]

No black ink on Max Bishop... great OBP, but no power and even though the best thing he did was walk a lot, only led the league in walks once.

[paul]

I'd vote for Bob Caruthers (possibly the highest winning percentage of any pitcher ever, depending on what source you believe), and George Van Haltren.

[OldOriole]

I agree with Bill Dahlen. Even more so I would also say Jim McCormick. No player from his era has a higher WAR and is on the outside of the Hall looking in. Plenty of black inK too....

[Steve D]

On Caruthers, is he even eligible for the Hall of Fame?

The rules stipulate you had to be in the big leagues for 10 years. He only had nine years as a pitcher (1884-1892), but he played a 10th season in 1893, hitting .275 as an outfielder.

He would be inducted as a pitcher (he's the only pitcher who has more than 100 wins more than losses (218-99) who's not in the HOF (except Andy Pettitte).

Steve

[rhodeskenm]

I like the idea of a major push for big group of 19th century guys, negro leaguers and of course Dahlen.

Two names I’d add are Pete Browning to 19th Century and one from post war who got passed over - Gil Hodges