1966 Topps 6th Series/Semi-Hi's

[deweyinthehall]

I don't think it goes to the edge, but on both these images it certainly extends beyond the Howard image, which is odd enough. If you look at the first Howard image the yellow seems to start further to the left as well, which make is appear the upper card is completely offset to the left by a couple millimeters - that's weird.

[Cliff Bowman]

Originally Posted by deweyinthehall

I don't think it goes to the edge, but on both these images it certainly extends beyond the Howard image, which is odd enough. If you look at the first Howard image the yellow seems to start further to the left as well, which make is appear the upper card is completely offset to the left by a couple millimeters - that's weird.

I noticed that too, the Howard card might be slightly oversized. ETA: that yellow might be a color separation/registration issue, something to keep in mind later.

[deweyinthehall]

I went back and looked through some of the 'indeterminate' miscuts we have and was able to place just this one - Terry Fox is beneath the Cubs Rookies on at least one slit - the Cubs rookies is the only non-player card in the 1st column with Fox.

So, baby steps.

[deweyinthehall]

Having some time to kill, I tried something I thought would be non-productive. We have a Dennis Bennett card showing a slight piece of the card to his left.

I decided to take a run through the 6th series so see if it was possible at all to narrow down the possible cards it could be.

Turns out, the vertical and horizontal placement of the trademark line on the orange field cuts the 76 possibilities down to about 6 immediately, and then closer inspection, and comparison with an actual Bennett card for alignment, suggests a single candidate - Al Ferrara.

Take a look and let me know if you think there is any other card you think it might be other than Ferrara.

[Cliff Bowman]

O’Donoghue is inarguably a 4x card who has two different cards above him, that means at least one of the three 4x rows has two different rows above it and at least one of those rows is 3x because it has Jimenez. I looked at every miscut LE and RE scan we have but unfortunately I couldn’t find any with a different card than what is already known.

[Cliff Bowman]

Originally Posted by deweyinthehall

Having some time to kill, I tried something I thought would be non-productive. We have a Dennis Bennett card showing a slight piece of the card to his left.

I decided to take a run through the 6th series so see if it was possible at all to narrow down the possible cards it could be.

Turns out, the vertical and horizontal placement of the trademark line on the orange field cuts the 76 possibilities down to about 6 immediately, and then closer inspection, and comparison with an actual Bennett card for alignment, suggests a single candidate - Al Ferrara.

Take a look and let me know if you think there is any other card you think it might be other than Ferrara.

I hope you’re right, we need horizontal matches to start linking up the vertical runs.

[Kevvyg1026]

The Bennett miscut with the trademark of the adjacent card near the edge of the pink border could be either 501, O'Donoghue, or 487, Ferrara. Both of those cards are 4x, and both have the trademark in the approximate correct location.

When I adjust the images using my crude abilities, it looks to me as if Ferrara is a better match, but I'm not ready to conclusively state that.

[Cliff Bowman]

I ran across this miscut last night that I didn't know I had because I listed it as a 7 Series rather than a 6 Series, it shows #511 Giants Rookie Stars at the top of a Slit which I believe puts the card at the end of the 4x Aaron row. I am puzzled why this card and Camilo Carreon have lower than normal 4x quantities on eBay but as of now all of the evidence has them at the end of 4x rows.

[deweyinthehall]

Things change quickly, so to sum up, here are the columns, full and partial:
LE
Aaron
Nuxhall
Fox
Moeller
Skinner
Gonzalez
Cubs Rookies

RE:
Hamilton
6th Checklist
7th Checklist
Wood
Giants Rookies
Carreon
Edwards


Oliva
Simmons
Ellsworth
Howard

Roznovsky
Kline
Barber

Buford
Latman
Azcue

Gibbon
Braves Rookies
Coleman

Radatz
Rollins

Yankees Rookies
Bressoud

Blefary
Klippstein

Bunker
Lee

Hannan
Schofield

Jimenez
O'Dohoghue

Richardson
Rodgers

Cannizzaro
Belinsky

Additionally, we have these side-by-sides:
Jimenez/Phillies Team
Klippstein/McAuliffe
Green/Linz
Bennett/Ferrara

These cards are on the top of one slit:
Aaron
Lolich
Wynn
GOnzalez
Giants Rookies

We also have an Aaron on the bottom row

Plus, about a couple dozen or more indeterminates that may prove useful as we get closer and start a process of elimination.

[Kevvyg1026]

So fox is below Cubs rs and below nuxhall, correct?

[deweyinthehall]

Yes - I believe that's what the miscuts show.

[Cliff Bowman]

Originally Posted by Kevvyg1026

So fox is below Cubs rs and below nuxhall, correct?

Nuxhall is one of the few players in the 6th Series that has a smaller than normal top oval at the top of the back of the card, Klippstein has the same thing. It is the same size as the Rookie Star cards and the manager cards.

[Kevvyg1026]

Are you suggesting that Gonzalez is over Klippstein rather than Nuxhall? These miscuts appear to suggest that both the Cubs RS and Nuxhall are LE card, and Gonzalez is clearly under Cubs RS.


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[Cliff Bowman]

Originally Posted by Kevvyg1026

Are you suggesting that Gonzalez is over Klippstein rather than Nuxhall? These miscuts appear to suggest that both the Cubs RS and Nuxhall are LE card, and Gonzalez is clearly under Cubs RS.

Not at all, I’m saying a sliver of a back miscut of a Nuxhall would be similar to the Cubs Rookie Stars card.