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Now that they are ended - E100?
Posted By: leon
Ideas? My thought, as are some other collectors thoughts I have spoken with, is printers scrap....... |
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Now that they are ended - E100?
Posted By: Steve Murray
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Now that they are ended - E100?
Posted By: robert a
The cut of the card indicates scrap, but I've heard tell of colors that I've never seen before. This seems to be lack of color. |
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Now that they are ended - E100?
Posted By: leon
But they don't have backs, they aren't type 2's, and are obviously hand cut? It would be neat if they were just missing colors but I don't think that is it.... |
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Posted By: robert a
Yeah, I didn't look at the auction. |
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Now that they are ended - E100?
Posted By: robert a
Is that the slightest hint of a border outline on the left side of the card? |
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Now that they are ended - E100?
Posted By: dstudeba
I agree it is an e100 printers scrap. It does have a border, the same card stock and the same size as a Type 1. Why another person would want one is beyond me. |
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Now that they are ended - E100?
Posted By: leon
I certainly wouldn't want "1" either. |
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Now that they are ended - E100?
Posted By: leon
After careful examination I am going with printers scrap as to the identity of these. There is a chance they were cut off an ad piece but the dimensions (minus the cut borders), the players and the typeset are the same as E100 type 1's...These were found on the bottom of a shoebox of PCL cards with other E100 type 1 and 2's and many obaks. A very original collection that was new to the hobby... I think REA will have several from this collection in their next auction....no printers scraps, but other cards. |
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Now that they are ended - E100?
Posted By: Jon Canfield
Leon - there appears to be some writing on the back of the Powell (under the remnants of paper). Is that something stuck to the card, or is that writing printed on the back of the card? |
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Now that they are ended - E100?
Posted By: leon
Yes, I noticed that before I bid on them too. It is in fact remnants from another card. I guess they were stacked at one time.... |
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Now that they are ended - E100?
Posted By: Steve Murray
Thanks for sharing. |
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Now that they are ended - E100?
Posted By: leon
Shown many times before but still sort of fitting... |
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Now that they are ended - E100?
Posted By: dstudeba
That is an interesting card. How many of them are there? Is it known that it was issued like other Home Run Kisses? |
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Now that they are ended - E100?
Posted By: leon
I got the HR Kisses black and white card from Dennis King. Dennis had (probably) the very first brick and mortar baseball card shop in America and it was in California. I think it was the early 70's when it opened. He is also a good friend of Mark Macrae. I had spoken to Dennis about it before the National and he brought it there for me. No idea how it was issued and according to Mark and Dennis this is the only one known. It is quite the mystery.....FYI, I also got my SGC80 T217 Mono from him....it was raw when I got it... |
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Now that they are ended - E100?
Posted By: dstudeba
Thanks for the information. I guess in the end it comes down to what each collector thinks is a printer's piece/proof and what is a card. I think it could be argued that the Home Run Kisses card is a proof. For example in the N321 set, the Whitehead card below was slabbed by GAI as a Type III, with obvious differences between that and the standard issued N321 Borchers. Personally I think the Whitehead is a proof, probably just semantics as each collector has to decide for themselves. |
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Now that they are ended - E100?
Posted By: leon
It's a good debate but I feel the term "proof" is thrown around WAY TOO often. Printing guys might chime in but when I think of proof I think of.... |
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Now that they are ended - E100?
Posted By: dstudeba
Hi Leon, I definitely agree with you on points 1, 3 & 4. Point 2 is a good point, and I don't think point 5 is necessary but would be indicative of a proof. |
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