eBay warning Battlefield auctioning 1952 Topps Mantle PSA 5, 53 Mantle PSA 8, Etc

[cardsnstuff]

Any lawyers out there: How is this not:
1} mail fraud
2} Theft by deception

I thought both are criminal offenses and why can't ebay be held accountable.

[aloondilana]

The bigger problem as I see it is VCP needs to void any sale battlefield does.
It's obvious many of us are not going to bid , thus they are gonna tank prices.
Is there anyone who is in contact with the vcp admin?
Leon?

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by aloondilana

The bigger problem as I see it is VCP needs to void any sale battlefield does.
It's obvious many of us are not going to bid , thus they are gonna tank prices.
Is there anyone who is in contact with the vcp admin?
Leon?

You see this as a bigger problem??

[Stonepony]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

You see this as a bigger problem??

+1 !!!

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by aloondilana

The bigger problem as I see it is VCP needs to void any sale battlefield does.
It's obvious many of us are not going to bid , thus they are gonna tank prices.
Is there anyone who is in contact with the vcp admin?
Leon?

If prices tank, which of course they won't, that would be a good thing for this buyer.

[russkcpa]

Originally Posted by cardsnstuff

Any lawyers out there: How is this not:
1} mail fraud
2} Theft by deception

I thought both are criminal offenses and why can't ebay be held accountable.

Mail fraud only if shipped USPS

[Leon]

Originally Posted by cardsnstuff

Any lawyers out there: How is this not:
1} mail fraud
2} Theft by deception

I thought both are criminal offenses and why can't ebay be held accountable.

I think Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act protects ebay. Ebay is a venue much like this forum. Venues don't generally get held accountable because of that law. It defines who a publisher of information is and it protects venues in that respect.
I can't count how many times I have had to laugh at lawyers who sent me Cease and Desist letters for what others say on this board. I usually call them, laugh at them, tell them to study up a little, tell them to F-off and hang up. I have never heard from one again after that scenario. Unless ebay is complicit in the specific issue they probably can't be held accountable, generally speaking. Just like I can't be held accountable for what others say on this forum, legally speaking. I am obviously not a lawyer but that is my layman's take on the issue with ebay. As far as going after a bad ebay seller, it would probably need to start with who got ripped off and his local authorities. Federal authorities would have to be interested in the issue and that is not always an easy battle itself.

[samosa4u]

Originally Posted by Leon

I can't count how many times I have had to laugh at lawyers who sent me Cease and Desist letters for what others say on this board. I usually call them, laugh at them, tell them to study up a little, tell them to F-off and hang up.

You're the man!

[swarmee]

Originally Posted by Leon

Unless ebay is complicit in the specific issue they probably can't be held accountable, generally speaking.

I think it would be relatively easy to convince a jury that eBay IS COMPLICIT in leaving her account intact for so many years after so many scams that have been reported up the chain and ignored.

[Sean]

Originally Posted by Leon

I can't count how many times I have had to laugh at lawyers who sent me Cease and Desist letters for what others say on this board. I usually call them, laugh at them, tell them to study up a little, tell them to F-off and hang up. I have never heard from one again after that scenario.

Were any of these lawyers representing Bruce?

[Edwolf1963]

Who the hell would bid $16K on any one of her actions .. let alone $6. Even if you’re not much of a student of her game, doesn’t the 97% feedback and countless negatives for the same things (photo shopping, misrepresentation, fraud, etc.) be enough of a warning for anybody with common sense to avoid?

Still amazes me that eBay allows this lice bag to continue to troll around in the wake of overwhelming evidence of fraudulent behavior. Almost like they condone it. I know, I know - they make too much money off her to conveniently look the other way on the obvious shenanigans.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Edwolf1963

Who the hell would bid $16K on any one of her actions .. let alone $6. Even if you’re not much of a student of her game, doesn’t the 97% feedback and countless negatives for the same things (photo shopping, misrepresentation, fraud, etc.) be enough of a warning for anybody with common sense to avoid?

Still amazes me that eBay allows this lice bag to continue to troll around in the wake of overwhelming evidence of fraudulent behavior. Almost like they condone it. I know, I know - they make too much money off her to conveniently look the other way on the obvious shenanigans.

It is very frustrating. Ebay doesn't make money stopping fraud, unfortunately. That might be our answer.