NonSports Forum

Net54baseball.com
Welcome to Net54baseball.com. These forums are devoted to both Pre- and Post- war baseball cards and vintage memorabilia, as well as other sports. There is a separate section for Buying, Selling and Trading - the B/S/T area!! If you write anything concerning a person or company your full name needs to be in your post or obtainable from it. . Contact the moderator at leon@net54baseball.com should you have any questions or concerns. When you click on links to eBay on this site and make a purchase, this can result in this site earning a commission. Affiliate programs and affiliations include, but are not limited to, the eBay Partner Network. Enjoy!
Net54baseball.com
Net54baseball.com
ebay GSB
T206s on eBay
Babe Ruth Cards on eBay
t206 Ty Cobb on eBay
Ty Cobb Cards on eBay
Lou Gehrig Cards on eBay
Baseball T201-T217 on eBay
Baseball E90-E107 on eBay
T205 Cards on eBay
Baseball Postcards on eBay
Goudey Cards on eBay
Baseball Memorabilia on eBay
Baseball Exhibit Cards on eBay
Baseball Strip Cards on eBay
Baseball Baking Cards on eBay
Sporting News Cards on eBay
Play Ball Cards on eBay
Joe DiMaggio Cards on eBay
Mickey Mantle Cards on eBay
Bowman 1951-1955 on eBay
Football Cards on eBay

Go Back   Net54baseball.com Forums > Net54baseball Main Forum - WWII & Older Baseball Cards > Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 04-23-2021, 11:35 PM
unamuzd1 unamuzd1 is offline
M0rrie Mu||ins
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Cincinnati
Posts: 234
Default 520: Reflections on a 40(ish)-year t206 journey

I hit 520 yesterday. It still doesn't feel real. I've never "completed" a vintage set before, and this one... this one's been in part of my life for almost 40 years.

Travis, who traded me the last card I needed (thank you again, Travis!), asked that I post something about building the set, some reflections - and out of respect to him, I'm going to do that. Out of respect to everyone else, I'm going to keep what goes on the board somewhat brief, then link to a much longer version I put up in a blog.

When did you start? I'm not positive when it was. My dad gave my brother and me vintage cards for Christmas every year when we were young, shirt boxes filled with plastic sheets containing Topps and Bowman cards from the 50s that he bought in bulk from the local card store. Every once in a while, though, there was something else. A Goudey, maybe, or if we were really lucky, a tobacco card. I was probably 8 or 9 when dad gave me the card that made me fall in love with the set.



It may not have been my first t206, but it's the first one that mattered.

When did you get serious about the set? Potentially completing it? Not for a while. I picked them up when I saw them at card shows and could afford them, but I didn't have any "meaningful" purchase until probably 1996 or 1997, when I visited the shop of a guy I'd grown up trading cards with. He was building a card and memorabilia business, and we stopped in to say hello. He showed me a collection of low-grade t206 cards he'd picked up. I ended up buying a pretty substantial lot from him, including a couple of Cy Young cards, a Lajoie, and a variety of others. I can only point to a half-dozen cards that I know for sure came from him, but there were probably 20 or 30 I bought that day.

Was that your biggest find? Not even close. That would be the collection I bought from a dealer in Dayton around 2003 or so. It set me back maybe $300 and included my first WaJo and a couple of oddities I posted about in 2004 - the Doolan and Bradley Polar Bears with the missing "ie". It was over 100 cards, all raw, mostly PB.

What was your strategy for collecting? Slow and steady. Like that's a surprise - it took me almost 40 years! These cards were always coming up for sale, and I like getting bargains. So I learned to use sniping services and was patient with my buying.

Any regrets? Well, yeah. Bargain hunting doesn't always work, and I DRAMATICALLY under-estimated how hard it would be to get the Cobb cards. My "only buy bargains" strategy left me needing 3 Cobbs out of the last 10 cards to complete the set, and paying way more than I would have had to pay if I'd gone after them more aggressively at almost any point in the previous 20 years.

Also, I have to live with the knowledge that I got out-sniped on a pair of Broadleafs on eBay back in 1998 or so. Being the under-bidder on one of them with a $45 snipe stung then, and it's way, way worse now!

What was the last card you got, to finish the set?



I made the deal to get me to 519 5 years to the day after I entered the "Monster Number" thread at 318. It took almost another 6 months to get to 520. Thanks yet again to Travis for trading me the Lundgren, and to TonyO for selling me the Demmitt and O'Hara that were numbers 518 and 519!

(Something I learned tonight: Carl Lundgren pitched in his last major league game on April 23, 1909. On April 23, 2021, Carl Lundgren arrived at my house and became #520 in my t206 set.)

What's the best thing about collecting t206? It's the same "best thing" as for anybody who finds something they enjoy that a bunch of other people also enjoy: the community. I don't post a ton, but I've learned a lot from other collectors at Net54, and other collectors and dealers I've interacted with over the past 40 years.

Now what? Heh. No idea. Probably more back-stamps.

Wait - this is the SHORT version? Yeah. Here's a link to the long version, for anybody who's curious: 520

Last edited by unamuzd1; 04-23-2021 at 11:37 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 04-24-2021, 02:13 AM
Jason's Avatar
Jason Jason is offline
Jason Wells
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Richmond,Va
Posts: 2,685
Default

Excellent write up. Congrats on getting to 520!
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 04-24-2021, 05:04 AM
Casey2296's Avatar
Casey2296 Casey2296 is online now
Is Mudville so bad?
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2020
Location: West Coast
Posts: 4,711
Default

Congratulations on completing your quest Morrie and thanks for posting your story.
__________________
Phil Lewis


https://www.flickr.com/photos/183872512@N04/
-
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 04-24-2021, 05:04 AM
danf19 danf19 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2017
Posts: 164
Default T206

thanks for sharing ! slow and steady seems to be a forgotten way anymore for many ! stories like these, keep me going with so much negativity in the hobby and the world !
Nice job,
Dan
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 04-24-2021, 05:17 AM
jjp3rd jjp3rd is offline
John
John Pur.cell
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Maryland
Posts: 283
Default

Congratulations!!


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 04-24-2021, 06:04 AM
Rhotchkiss's Avatar
Rhotchkiss Rhotchkiss is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2016
Posts: 4,287
Default

Contrasts. Great accomplishment!
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 04-24-2021, 06:41 AM
aaamchenry aaamchenry is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2020
Posts: 328
Default

Just an amazing achievement. Congrats!


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 04-24-2021, 07:16 AM
pwang100 pwang100 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 231
Default

Cool story. Thanks

Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 04-24-2021, 08:00 AM
Kevin Kevin is offline
Kevin from Franklin Square, LI
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2020
Location: Long Island
Posts: 663
Default

I had an emotional response to reading this. Congratulations, friend. THS ks for the post.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 04-24-2021, 08:30 AM
rats60's Avatar
rats60 rats60 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 2,900
Default

Congratulations. My first two were Mathewson and Speaker. 520 was O'Hara. It is a great feeling to slay the monster. Welcome to the club.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 04-24-2021, 08:40 AM
MuncieNolePAZ MuncieNolePAZ is offline
Chad
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2020
Location: Indiana
Posts: 393
Default

Congrats! Awesome accomplishment. Thanks for sharing.

Chad
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 04-24-2021, 02:22 PM
ValKehl's Avatar
ValKehl ValKehl is offline
Val Kehl
Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Manassas, VA (DC suburb)
Posts: 3,545
Default

Congrats, well done & thanks for telling us about your collecting journey. I hope you start another set, such as the T205 set.
__________________
Seeking very scarce/rare cards for my Sam Rice master collection, e.g., E210 York Caramel Type 2 (upgrade), 1931 W502, W504 (upgrade), W572 sepia, W573, W575-1 E. S. Rice version, 1922 Haffner's Bread, 1922 Keating Candy, 1922 Witmor Candy Type 2 (vertical back), 1926 Sports Co. of Am. with ad & blank backs. Also T216 Kotton "NGO" card of Hugh Jennings. Also 1917 Merchants Bakery & Weil Baking cards of WaJo.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 04-24-2021, 02:52 PM
doug.goodman doug.goodman is offline
Doug Goodman
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: On the road again...
Posts: 4,608
Default

That's pretty great. Congrats.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 04-24-2021, 03:10 PM
Bpm0014's Avatar
Bpm0014 Bpm0014 is offline
Brendan Mullen
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Pittsburgh PA
Posts: 2,855
Default

Great article! Really enjoyed reading that. I’m at 517 myself. Quick question; is that Mathewson genuine? It just looks off to me. Maybe it’s just the picture. Anyway, congratulations!!
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 04-24-2021, 04:45 PM
Eric72's Avatar
Eric72 Eric72 is offline
Eric Perry
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Philadelphia Suburbs
Posts: 3,425
Default

A 40-year journey. What a significant thing.

Along with the sense of accomplishment, it appears you have also acquired a one-of-a-kind story. While many people have pieced together baseball card sets, none have taken the same exact path as you.

Congratulations on 520! Treasure this.
__________________
Eric Perry

Currently collecting:
T206 (132/524)
1956 Topps Baseball (189/342)

"You can observe a lot by just watching."
- Yogi Berra
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 04-24-2021, 05:46 PM
jp1216's Avatar
jp1216 jp1216 is offline
J0N PEDEℜSѺN
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 1,388
Default

Congrats on 520! My last card was Ryan. Will NEVER forget!
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 04-24-2021, 06:41 PM
phlflyer1's Avatar
phlflyer1 phlflyer1 is offline
Scott M.
Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 346
Default

Congratulations on such a great accomplishment and having the patience to keep at it all these years!
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 04-24-2021, 06:55 PM
unamuzd1 unamuzd1 is offline
M0rrie Mu||ins
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Cincinnati
Posts: 234
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bpm0014 View Post
Great article! Really enjoyed reading that. I’m at 517 myself. Quick question; is that Mathewson genuine? It just looks off to me. Maybe it’s just the picture. Anyway, congratulations!!
Although it's possible someone 40+ years ago artificially aged a card that they sold to a dealer who probably sold it to my dad for no more than $20, I find it kind of unlikely.

(Plus, he passes the "sniff test".)

And thanks!
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 04-24-2021, 07:12 PM
Vintagecatcher's Avatar
Vintagecatcher Vintagecatcher is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 2,190
Default Congrats Morrie!

Congrats Morrie on your most excellent journey, and appreciate you sharing the ride with us.

Regards,

Patrick
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 04-24-2021, 07:41 PM
FrankWakefield FrankWakefield is offline
Frank Wakefield
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Franklin KY
Posts: 2,730
Default

Congratulations, Sir. And to your father who got you started..

I recall having one Cobb. Then by the time I got a second you and I had mirror image regrets. I tried for Demmitt and O'Hara early on. Got 'em, then let go of the O'Hara to get a slightly better one. The buyer was on this board and he asked if he could make payments, it all worked out well. I got to 512 and then needed to free up some money, I sold most of them in a big lot to a board member.

And over the last few years I've piddled at gathering them again.

So congratulations... and that's not just for getting to 520, it's also for staying the course, persisting, refusing to waiver. Thanks for sharing your recollections about that trek.
Reply With Quote
  #21  
Old 04-24-2021, 07:57 PM
tab's Avatar
tab tab is offline
Travis Bid.ner
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Illinois
Posts: 356
Default

Morrie congrats again! Loved hearing about your journey. Thanks for leaving the link to 520. It was a great read! For anyone who liked the short version click on his link.
__________________
TOP T206 WANTS
*DRUM
*CHarlie Rhodes errors & oddities


Also would like to add a few AMERICAN BEAUTIES
350 frame,no frame and/or 460
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 04-25-2021, 02:45 AM
tonyo's Avatar
tonyo tonyo is offline
Tony Ooten
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Woodstock GA
Posts: 1,515
Default

You ARE patient Morrie! I remember thinking back in October you would have that Lundgren in no time. The Lundgren you waited for is perfect. I love that pose, the subtle colors in the back, and the irony of the end of his career and the arrival in your mailbox

I agree , the t206 community is the best part
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 04-25-2021, 06:55 AM
DoubleJ DoubleJ is online now
J0sh J0nes
member
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Toronto, Ontario
Posts: 29
Default

Congrats! My first T206 was also a Mathewson portrait from my Dad, about 30 years ago. Since then I’ve picked up a few more T206 HOFs, but can’t imagine the effort required to get to 520. Quite the accomplishment.

Josh
Attached Images
File Type: jpg BB241883-26EA-4637-B4C4-5816E248B1DC.jpg (7.2 KB, 294 views)
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 04-25-2021, 09:17 AM
unamuzd1 unamuzd1 is offline
M0rrie Mu||ins
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Cincinnati
Posts: 234
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by tonyo View Post
You ARE patient Morrie! I remember thinking back in October you would have that Lundgren in no time. The Lundgren you waited for is perfect. I love that pose, the subtle colors in the back, and the irony of the end of his career and the arrival in your mailbox

I agree , the t206 community is the best part
I learned other interesting things about Lundgren while I was writing up my reflections. Like, despite how relatively common his KC card is, the sources I found say that after his contract was sold to KC by Toronto, he never actually showed up there!

And that he went on to be an assistant football coach and head baseball coach at the University of Michigan.
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 04-25-2021, 09:19 AM
unamuzd1 unamuzd1 is offline
M0rrie Mu||ins
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Cincinnati
Posts: 234
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by DoubleJ View Post
Congrats! My first T206 was also a Mathewson portrait from my Dad, about 30 years ago. Since then I’ve picked up a few more T206 HOFs, but can’t imagine the effort required to get to 520. Quite the accomplishment.

Josh
That's awesome! Thank you, and thanks to everyone who's posted. This continues to reaffirm for me what a great collecting community we have.
Reply With Quote
  #26  
Old 04-25-2021, 05:09 PM
FifferFeff FifferFeff is offline
Tom O.
member
 
Join Date: Feb 2021
Location: St Louis, MO
Posts: 12
Default

Thank you for sharing your story! I’m just starting my journey and look forward to the day in the distant future when I can write a similar post.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Reply With Quote
  #27  
Old 04-25-2021, 09:57 PM
steve B steve B is offline
Steve Birmingham
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: eastern Mass.
Posts: 8,098
Default

congratulations! I'm at 43-44 years, and only about halfway.
Reply With Quote
  #28  
Old 04-26-2021, 01:28 AM
sreader3 sreader3 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 1,223
Default

Well done Morrie and thank you for sharing.
Reply With Quote
  #29  
Old 04-26-2021, 03:43 AM
chriskim chriskim is offline
Chris Kim
Banned
 
Join Date: Dec 2018
Location: NY
Posts: 533
Default

I don't remember when was the last time t206 partial set that has over 500 cards being auctioned as a lot. Most of them are being sold/auctioned as a much smaller group nowaday. REA usually has one partial set that has 300s or 400s cards in every auction, but I don't see them anymore... not in their last April auction at least.
Reply With Quote
  #30  
Old 04-27-2021, 12:42 PM
tavo2311 tavo2311 is offline
member
 
Join Date: Oct 2019
Posts: 3
Default

Thanks for sharing the long form, it was fun to read. It brought me back to the day I made my dad buy me "a tobacco card" at a card show. It didn't matter which one, just had to look and feel like that old Honus Wagner you heard so much about. It was an Elmer Flick in decent condition, probably 10 bucks at the time?? Long since lost, that was my first and only T206 until a couple years ago. I am now at about 2 years of only trying to collect the 28 New York Highlanders and with the recent prices even those are proving elusive. I wish I started when you did!
Reply With Quote
  #31  
Old 04-27-2021, 02:35 PM
egri's Avatar
egri egri is offline
Sco.tt Mar.cus
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Norfolk, VA
Posts: 1,790
Default

Congratulations Morrie, and thank you for sharing!
__________________
Signed 1953 Topps set: 264/274 (96.35 %)
Reply With Quote
  #32  
Old 04-27-2021, 03:40 PM
phlflyer1's Avatar
phlflyer1 phlflyer1 is offline
Scott M.
Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 346
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by chriskim View Post
I don't remember when was the last time t206 partial set that has over 500 cards being auctioned as a lot. Most of them are being sold/auctioned as a much smaller group nowaday.
I don't know about recent 500+ card T206 near sets being sold as a complete lot but here is the link to my near set that sold as a single lot back in the April 2010 REA auction.

https://robertedwardauctions.com/auc...-set-registry/

I certainly do miss the cards but it helped me do some nice things for my family so I can't complain.

Morries excellent journey reminds me a lot of the one my father and I embarked on to put that set together. Congratulations, once again, Morrie on your accomplishment!

Last edited by phlflyer1; 04-27-2021 at 03:42 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #33  
Old 04-27-2021, 05:33 PM
tedzan tedzan is offline
Ted Zanidakis
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Pennsylvania & Maine
Posts: 10,053
Default 520: Reflections on a 40(ish)-year t206 journey

Quote:
Originally Posted by unamuzd1 View Post
I hit 520 yesterday. It still doesn't feel real. I've never "completed" a vintage set before, and this one... this one's been in part of my life for almost 40 years.

Travis, who traded me the last card I needed (thank you again, Travis!), asked that I post something about building the set, some reflections - and out of respect to him, I'm going to do that. Out of respect to everyone else, I'm going to keep what goes on the board somewhat brief, then link to a much longer version I put up in a blog.

Wait - this is the SHORT version? Yeah. Here's a link to the long version, for anybody who's curious: 520

Hi Morrie

Completing a 520-card T206 set is as good as it gets in this great hobby of ours. And, your story (posted here and in your Blog) are really great reading....Congratulations.

Be careful, though, "The Monster" can haunt you....as expressed in those classic lyrics in the song Hotel California.....

" You can check out any time you like, but you can never leave "


TED Z

T206 Reference
.
Reply With Quote
  #34  
Old 04-29-2021, 02:18 PM
unamuzd1 unamuzd1 is offline
M0rrie Mu||ins
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Cincinnati
Posts: 234
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by tedzan View Post
Hi Morrie

Completing a 520-card T206 set is as good as it gets in this great hobby of ours. And, your story (posted here and in your Blog) are really great reading....Congratulations.

Be careful, though, "The Monster" can haunt you....as expressed in those classic lyrics in the song Hotel California.....

" You can check out any time you like, but you can never leave "


TED Z
Thanks, Ted!

And I have no intention of leaving. There's always something new to discover with this beast! I can just do it now with a little less eye toward a specific goal.

(I was going to say "a little less urgency," but I didn't want to blow out every irony filter on the internet by referring to a 40-year collecting trek as having any "urgency" attached!)
Reply With Quote
  #35  
Old 04-29-2021, 02:45 PM
BRY68's Avatar
BRY68 BRY68 is offline
Bruce
member
 
Join Date: Apr 2020
Location: Vancouver
Posts: 33
Default

Well done and congrats. A great story!
Reply With Quote
  #36  
Old 05-07-2021, 03:40 AM
Forza_azzurri's Avatar
Forza_azzurri Forza_azzurri is offline
John F
member
 
Join Date: Jul 2020
Location: Tokyo, Japan
Posts: 41
Default

Great! Congrats!

Sent from my SC-02H using Tapatalk
__________________
T206 goals: 429 out of 521 complete
Reply With Quote
Reply




Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
End of a 24 year journey chlankf Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions 24 11-29-2020 04:16 PM
T206 Graded Population Growth from year to year Farm_kid Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions 5 04-22-2020 06:25 PM
T206 REFERENCE, Reflections, VOL II......Reprising the Ty Cobb / TY COBB card debate tedzan Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions 32 06-14-2019 07:29 PM
My T206 journey....... curch Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions 7 09-03-2010 12:19 AM
The end of my T206 journey Archive Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions 33 01-29-2008 01:45 PM


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 06:03 PM.


ebay GSB