Mantle fake?

[chalupacollects]

Is it me or does these 100% guarantees make it easier for the feds to crack down on them? If they were so inclined?

[redalpha7]

These photos bring back memories from trips to Las Vegas. My work took me Vegas often and within 30 minutes checking into the hotel I would head over well know card store on strip. I bought a ton of stuff from them , the items were well framed and the autographs were in clear blue sharpie. One time I told them I was looking for a Mays autograph and before I went home they had one in stock. What luck . I was walking near the store the day it was raided by the FBI.


The good news thanks to a helpful San Diego FBI agent I received all my money back via court settlement from the seller.

The were all Greg Marino forgeries

Lesson learned.

[RichardSimon]

Originally Posted by redalpha7

These photos bring back memories from trips to Las Vegas. My work took me Vegas often and within 30 minutes checking into the hotel I would head over well know card store on strip. I bought a ton of stuff from them , the items were well framed and the autographs were in clear blue sharpie. One time I told them I was looking for a Mays autograph and before I went home they had one in stock. What luck . I was walking near the store the day it was raided by the FBI.


The good news thanks to a helpful San Diego FBI agent I received all my money back via court settlement from the seller.

The were all Greg Marino forgeries

Lesson learned.

That FBI raid on that store was either televised live or in a news story about the raid. I remember seeing it on TV. The owner of the store was whimpering like a little baby when the Feds hauled off all his crap.

[shelly]

The store was Smokey's in Nevada.

[redalpha7]

Yes

Between New York and Monte Carlo casinos using present day landmarks

The staff was so friendly

T

[shelly]

Originally Posted by chalupacollects

Is it me or does these 100% guarantees make it easier for the feds to crack down on them? If they were so inclined?

Just to let you know. Richard, Chris and I worked hand in hand with law reinforcement for the past seven years. It all came to and end when the FBI in Florida refused to issue warrants
If any one of you want to call your local FBI and get this started again it would be greatly appreciated.
.

[RichardSimon]

Originally Posted by shelly

Just to let you know. Richard, Chris and I worked hand in hand with law reinforcement for the past seven years. It all came to and end when the FBI in Florida refused to issue warrants
If any one of you want to call your local FBI and get this started again it would be greatly appreciated.
.

What a waste of time and effort on our part.
A major disappointment for the three of us and a lesson learned about LE.

[Duluth Eskimo]

Originally Posted by RichardSimon

What a waste of time and effort on our part.
A major disappointment for the three of us and a lesson learned about LE.

Law enforcement doesn't issue "warrants". The FBI and local LE acts on warrants and indictments issued by the court and has very little control over it. Get a clue before you and Shelly continue to throw law enforcement officers under the bus. The problem is with your local district attorney or US attorneys office.

BTW: they may also be a little busy with the never ending amount of violent crime occurring nationwide on a daily basis.

[RichardSimon]

Originally Posted by Duluth Eskimo

Law enforcement doesn't issue "warrants". The FBI and local LE acts on warrants and indictments issued by the court and has very little control over it. Get a clue before you and Shelly continue to throw law enforcement officers under the bus. The problem is with your local district attorney or US attorneys office.

BTW: they may also be a little busy with the never ending amount of violent crime occurring nationwide on a daily basis.

Ok. The proper wording was the US Attorney's office dropped the ball.
That was told to me by a former FBI agent who was involved in the case from the start of it until it was transferred out of his jurisdiction to the FBI in Florida. He was involved in other cases involving hobby forgery and has been instrumental in the fight against forgers. He is now a retired FBI agent and consults for the FBI.
He called me, Shelly and Chris to personally tell us that the US Attorney was dropping the case and he was distraught about it.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Originally Posted by shelly

Just to let you know. Richard, Chris and I worked hand in hand with law reinforcement for the past seven years. It all came to and end when the FBI in Florida refused to issue warrants
If any one of you want to call your local FBI and get this started again it would be greatly appreciated.
.

The FBI doesn't issue warrants, the courts do.

[thetruthisoutthere]

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

The FBI doesn't issue warrants, the courts do.

Semantics.

The point Shelly was making is that nothing was done.

[Duluth Eskimo]

Originally Posted by thetruthisoutthere

Semantics.

The point Shelly was making is that nothing was done.

Chris,
It's not semantics. LE often is left frustrated and disheartened when attorneys fail to act on their hard work. This comment pretty much cements my comment above. Get a clue

[thetruthisoutthere]

Originally Posted by Duluth Eskimo

Chris,
It's not semantics. LE often is left frustrated and disheartened when attorneys fail to act on their hard work. This comment pretty much cements my comment above. Get a clue

I will agree to disagree with you, Jason.

In this context, it's semantics.

If you knew what we know, you would agree.

[shelly]

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

The FBI doesn't issue warrants, the courts do.

I agree the courts issue the warrants if they are asked to do so. The FBI refused to pursue the case.
You have seen all the phony photos that have been coming out if Florida.
Well the FBI lab in Phoenix found them to on paper that was not yet issued until ten years after Mantle died. They sent this information plus many other facts that proved that all the signatures where fake.
The Miami FBI refused to do anything about it period case closed.
It will take the people on this site to call there local FBI.

[RichardSimon]

Though it is not "violent crime" it was multi millions of $$$. Certainly enough to warrant a prosecution. And obviously, due to the diligence of Chris, we still see that this garbage is still being sold.
The evidence, seemingly to Shelly, myself and Chris, was very strong and we still scratch our heads that the case was dropped.

[Duluth Eskimo]

Everyone continues to blame law enforcement when cases are brought or dropped by the US attorney or district attorney. Also, "proof" is what can be presented or proven in a court of law, not some forum discussion where people or bloggers discuss something endlessly. If you know anything about the law you should know that most evidence doesn't even make it to court or does not "prove" anything.

[RichardSimon]

Originally Posted by Duluth Eskimo

Everyone continues to blame law enforcement when cases are brought or dropped by the US attorney or district attorney. Also, "proof" is what can be presented or proven in a court of law, not some forum discussion where people or bloggers discuss something endlessly. If you know anything about the law you should know that most evidence doesn't even make it to court or does not "prove" anything.

There was major forensic evidence in this case. And not the type of forensic evidence that we mock here.