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A new concept....Vintage Baseball Card Forum Auctions?
Posted By: leon
With all of the talk about how well ebay is doing, and there not being much of an alternative to everyday selling (except BST), would there be any interest in a Vintage Baseball Card Forum Auction, as on ongoing everyday service? There would be a small cost probably based on the seller paying 3%-5% and no buyers fee. It could be for $5 items or $50,000+ items. I have been in talks with a few s/w people about it...lmk your thoughts..It's a long shot and probably not feasible, but ya' never know...Right now it's just an idea.....best regards |
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A new concept....Vintage Baseball Card Forum Auctions?
Posted By: Adam J. Baxter
Leon, that's a great idea. Ebay just plain sucks and it would be nice doing auctions with people who know their stuff for a change. |
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A new concept....Vintage Baseball Card Forum Auctions?
Posted By: leon
I agree...but would there be enough of an audience? Ebay is huge.... |
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A new concept....Vintage Baseball Card Forum Auctions?
Posted By: warshawlaw
from how do you regulate who does the bidding to how you determine who wins. Would you let the auctioneers set their own terms and conditions or would they have to adhere to certain standard of practice? How would disputes be resolved and by who? Could the seller "redline" certain people he or she doesn't want to do business with? |
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A new concept....Vintage Baseball Card Forum Auctions?
Posted By: leon
I understand your thoughts and potential issues. There are many. Without an idea and a need nothing ever happens though. Two ways could be. |
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A new concept....Vintage Baseball Card Forum Auctions?
Posted By: leon
I don't want their to be a charge for BST...I like it the way it is..I have had several people bring that up to me....so the answer is No...the auction thing would be different....but again, not sure what the heck right now.... |
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A new concept....Vintage Baseball Card Forum Auctions?
Posted By: jP
and i would think it could do very well here, so as long as all the bases are covered. i hope this happens. |
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A new concept....Vintage Baseball Card Forum Auctions?
Posted By: Chris Bland
Edited - misread your statement leon. |
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A new concept....Vintage Baseball Card Forum Auctions?
Posted By: peter chao
Leon, |
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A new concept....Vintage Baseball Card Forum Auctions?
Posted By: Joe D.
my sitehost had free "auction" software and I downloaded it (a while ago). |
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A new concept....Vintage Baseball Card Forum Auctions?
Posted By: Brad
That's a great idea Leon, I'd rather buy/sell cards on this site. It would be my #1 choice when looking for rear cards! |
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A new concept....Vintage Baseball Card Forum Auctions?
Posted By: RayB
N54 B/S/T for prewar is one of the best conduits for buying and selling what I collect. Let's not muddy the water. |
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A new concept....Vintage Baseball Card Forum Auctions?
Posted By: Jason L
count me out! |
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A new concept....Vintage Baseball Card Forum Auctions?
Posted By: peter chao
Guys, |
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A new concept....Vintage Baseball Card Forum Auctions?
Posted By: steve f
Would we have to buy a banner from ourselves?.. I'm in |
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A new concept....Vintage Baseball Card Forum Auctions?
Posted By: Cat
I wanted to repost this from the Doug Allen thread. I wrote this 11/28/06. I think it is the essence of the problem. It was written specifically to Doug, but I think it is appropriate here. Card buyers are paying for other more complicated and costly parts of the Auction House's product lines. Any mechanism to combat card inflation due to Auciton House fees is a good effort. |
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A new concept....Vintage Baseball Card Forum Auctions?
Posted By: Cat
Leon, I sent you an e-mail to your flash.net account. |
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A new concept....Vintage Baseball Card Forum Auctions?
Posted By: Wesley
3 - 5% ? |
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A new concept....Vintage Baseball Card Forum Auctions?
Posted By: peter chao
Guys, |
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A new concept....Vintage Baseball Card Forum Auctions?
Posted By: leon
Do you like ebay? I think they charge about 5%-6%, after it's said and done. And NOW you don't know what the heck is going on?..the idea is that most folks don't like ebay.....they use it as a necessity...I am not saying this will work..I don't know..it's just an idea... |
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A new concept....Vintage Baseball Card Forum Auctions?
Posted By: steve f
peter, don't worry about Barry. He's jammed up trying to answer Seinfeld trivia in another thread. |
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A new concept....Vintage Baseball Card Forum Auctions?
Posted By: leon
I have been talking to Barry about this already...before I posted. This isn't meant to encroach on major auction houses...it's meant to be a daily outlet, that could be better and safer than ebay....Most likely this particular thread is as far as it will go....Like I said it's just a thought...don't shoot me yet.. |
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A new concept....Vintage Baseball Card Forum Auctions?
Posted By: Wesley
I have not sold cards recently on ebay. When I used to sell cards on ebay, some were higher than expected and some were lower. Overall, I thought it was ok. |
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A new concept....Vintage Baseball Card Forum Auctions?
Posted By: Denny
I think that the accountability side of the idea is worth it alone. Leon, I do hope this ends up happening. Many Pre War Collectors would benefit from this alternative & I don't see why the BST would have to go away. I see this project as another option, not an end to the BST. Lot of work to do, ya never though....I would love to help, if it were possoble!? |
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A new concept....Vintage Baseball Card Forum Auctions?
Posted By: Dan Bretta
I like the idea....buying cards on ebay is safe if you know the seller and most of us do know the sellers. Not so safe when we don't know who we're buying from... Why not cut ebay out of the profits and do it ourselves? A typical ebay auction for a t-206 card may get 100-200 hits...I don't think it's out of line to say that there are far more posters+lurkers on this board. It's not like T206 commons are going to sell for a buck a piece. I think it's safe to say that most items will get fair market value here. |
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A new concept....Vintage Baseball Card Forum Auctions?
Posted By: Cat
Thanks Leon. |
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A new concept....Vintage Baseball Card Forum Auctions?
Posted By: leon
Here's one of them....how good is this? Who knows what the heck is happening...either it's a shill or someone unknowingly is going to be very unhappy.... |
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A new concept....Vintage Baseball Card Forum Auctions?
Posted By: Tony Andrea
Leon - Tony Andrea |
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A new concept....Vintage Baseball Card Forum Auctions?
Posted By: Dan Bretta
Leon, I have one suggestion that should be in the forum rules....all links that are longer than the screen should be given a tinyurl so you don't have to scroll left to right to read the thread. I know this is going to be a long one and I hate having to scroll to read threads. |
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A new concept....Vintage Baseball Card Forum Auctions?
Posted By: peter chao
Leon, |
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A new concept....Vintage Baseball Card Forum Auctions?
Posted By: Denny
bbcardsareme? So, Why doesn't he know much about cards? Whats the bb stand for, Big Balls! |
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A new concept....Vintage Baseball Card Forum Auctions?
Posted By: barrysloate
Steve does have me tied up with Seinfeld questions I can't answer. He may force me to bring out the heavy artillery...nevertheless, to respond to Peter and others, Leon and I have discussed this and I have been extremely supportive of it. Not only do I not feel threatened, but I would be happy to work with Leon. I don't think his plan is to open his own auction house, but to provide another avenue similar to ebay for people who are tired of selling there. The key is the complicated software; and as I told him, there are still many vintage collectors who don't know about this board, so he would have to do a lot of advertising. I think it's an excellent idea and I think he should pursue it until or unless it just is no longer feasible. |
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A new concept....Vintage Baseball Card Forum Auctions?
Posted By: bigfish
Leon, |
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A new concept....Vintage Baseball Card Forum Auctions?
Posted By: John S
I am for giving it a try. |
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A new concept....Vintage Baseball Card Forum Auctions?
Posted By: peter chao
Barry, |
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A new concept....Vintage Baseball Card Forum Auctions?
Posted By: E, Daniel
My only suggestion would be for a 'No Paypal' payment approach. The first deal that went south involving a paypal payment, and subsquent charge back - then freezing of accounts etc etc...would jamn this board with complaints and be an instant death knell for the whole thing. |
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A new concept....Vintage Baseball Card Forum Auctions?
Posted By: dstudeba
So I guess with the advertising needed, and the bidders needed, it would be wise to change the url of the site from http://www.network54.com/Forum/153652 to something that is a little easier to find? |
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A new concept....Vintage Baseball Card Forum Auctions?
Posted By: Dan Bretta
I'll really be pissed the first time someone outs a Net54 auction placed in the wrong category! |
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A new concept....Vintage Baseball Card Forum Auctions?
Posted By: leon
I don't know the answer to that question.... It would be nice to have a url everyone knew....but we'll see... |
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A new concept....Vintage Baseball Card Forum Auctions?
Posted By: MVSNYC
i think this is a very good idea... |
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A new concept....Vintage Baseball Card Forum Auctions?
Posted By: Brad
No Pay-Pal! are you kidding? It's just to "Convenient" plus I'd want my card shipped out ASAP! |
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A new concept....Vintage Baseball Card Forum Auctions?
Posted By: Wesley
Paypal is very convenient, but the Paypal fees will cut into the auction listing fees in a hurry. |
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A new concept....Vintage Baseball Card Forum Auctions?
Posted By: E, Daniel
Brad, convenience is one thing, but the reason Paypal is such a problem is because their 'remedy' solution is absoutely awful. It is completely in the favour of the buyer, can result in the sellers account being frozen - which prohibits you from continuing to use their services you may need for your regular ebay habit, and just basically stinks. Imagine the process and the airing of dirty laundry with a sale gone wrong involving paypal on a Net54 Auction site. It's bad enough when you are dealing with a complete stranger, but think about it being one of the regular posters, and then after everything goes bad on a transaction you have to read their posts and desperately refrain from flaming them at every second...... |
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A new concept....Vintage Baseball Card Forum Auctions?
Posted By: Joann
I think it's an awesome idea. I was trying to mentally wrestle with something similar last night - trying to figure out if there could be some kind of hybrid between ebay and BST. |
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A new concept....Vintage Baseball Card Forum Auctions?
Posted By: Brad
E, Daniel, |
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A new concept....Vintage Baseball Card Forum Auctions?
Posted By: Josh Adams
I respectfully think this is a very bad decision, and could lead to an avalance of unintended consequences. |
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A new concept....Vintage Baseball Card Forum Auctions?
Posted By: barrysloate
Joann made a good point that I shared with Leon. Although there are still many collectors who don't know about this board, there are so many serious ones here that it is hard to imagine any vintage item not reaching its full potential. But even I would want to start with a few small items to test the market. Still worth kicking around. |
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A new concept....Vintage Baseball Card Forum Auctions?
Posted By: Bob
Leon- I'd be in favor of it. The only thing I worry about is the audience. I try whenever I can to put a card on the 54 Board first to give people here first crack at a card but lately I have had had some cards on the BST thread that went nowhere and when I put them on ebay they were snatched up within 24 hours by non-54 buyers. |
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A new concept....Vintage Baseball Card Forum Auctions?
Posted By: Mark
Dan, that's a great idea about changing the site's url, and advertising more in general, so more bidders can find it. Perhaps the costs of advertising could be covered by charging a nominal monthly n54 membership fee a la cardpricer. |
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A new concept....Vintage Baseball Card Forum Auctions?
Posted By: JimB
I would be interested to hear the details of how it would operate, but in principal I am all for it. |
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