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Another Wagner found-Uh Huh
Posted By: David Smith
WAGNER TOBACCO CARD IN VINTAGE BOX OF CIGARETTES !!!!! |
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Another Wagner found-Uh Huh
Posted By: Julie
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Another Wagner found-Uh Huh
Posted By: Robert
I can not believe that this guy would think that anybody would fall for this one. This guy must be a dumb red neck.. |
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Another Wagner found-Uh Huh
Posted By: Shane
haha that was good for a laugh |
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Another Wagner found-Uh Huh
Posted By: steve k
Well I guess the bidding will reach around $250,000 or so. (Yawn) |
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Another Wagner found-Uh Huh
Posted By: Shane
I asked him how a piedmont card got in that box and about the factory numbers: |
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Another Wagner found-Uh Huh
Posted By: davidcycleback
Now ask him how a modern reprint got in there. Or how the card got rounded corners. |
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Another Wagner found-Uh Huh
Posted By: Tim
I was under the impression that the known Wagner cards are Sweet Caporal. |
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Another Wagner found-Uh Huh
Posted By: Jon Canfield
Tim - Wagner's are known with both a Sweet Caporal or a Piedmont back. Of the 50 or so known examples (possible more or less but 50 seemed a good number to say), the vast majority are Piedmont backed. I'm probably off so some correct me but I believe there are only 5 or so known Wagners with a Sweet Caporal back. |
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Another Wagner found-Uh Huh
Posted By: Glenn
I believe it's the other way around. Almost all Sweet Caporal backs; 2 or 3 Piedmonts. |
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Another Wagner found-Uh Huh
Posted By: Tim
As far as this card goes,I think I'd better wait to bid on the more scarce Sweet Caporal. |
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Another Wagner found-Uh Huh
Posted By: Tim
Of course,reprint the rarest one. |
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Another Wagner found-Uh Huh
Posted By: juju
edited |
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Another Wagner found-Uh Huh
Posted By: Paul
The round corners on a card just liberated from a 100 year old pack are a nice touch. I also like the mention of "estate sale" and "flea market" in the same sentence. Always a good sign. |
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Another Wagner found-Uh Huh
Posted By: dennis
nothing like a good old fashion SCAM....how dumb is this seller? yes....i know very dumb...now check out his 11 bids.......http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBids&item=5174860303 who said earlier in this post, this never ceases to amaze me??? |
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Another Wagner found-Uh Huh
Posted By: Scott Jeter
I have to admit, the High Bidder is determined to get a T-206 Wagner. It still amazes me how stupid some people can be. |
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Another Wagner found-Uh Huh
Posted By: Never Mind the Card,
The stuff they're growing in Waco, GA. |
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Another Wagner found-Uh Huh
Posted By: warshawlaw
A nascar dummy (I know, redundant) tops them all. LOL, esp. the rounded corners on the pack-fresh card. I'd like to see the rest of the cards that were in the box that covered over this gem... |
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Another Wagner found-Uh Huh
Posted By: Mike
I'm amazed at how people are willing to delude themselves to mold fiction into reality in their own minds. People want so much to believe this is "the find of the century" that they are almost willing to lie to themselves. If the seller is willing to put the slightest bit of effort into this, they are willing to bite. I see this in other aspects of life consistently as well (politics?). I just don't understand some people (maybe many). I think a large majority of the collectors on this board are realists, intellects to a degree), which may be why we have quality collections to begin with. |
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Another Wagner found-Uh Huh
Posted By: T.J. Schwartz
Did you read the answer to the "get it graded" question? It's hilarious! Something like. 'I think they just grade the card and not its authenticity"!!! This will make my next column in Tuff Stuff for sure! Let's see, get it graded and if real, retire.....or sell in on ebay for a grand or so. Hmmmmmmmm? What to do, what to do? TJS |
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Another Wagner found-Uh Huh
Posted By: dennis
email this seller and tell him he is a publicity seeking collector who has been searching for a "REMARKABLE find like this for years" and that he intends to bid over a million dollars to insure of his winning this auction. upon winning the card he will pick up "the find" at the sellers residence with a full camera crew and armed guards to really make this an event.now i know this sounds stupid and none of us would believe it,but remember the seller is an idiot scammer.i wonder how he would respond?? |
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Another Wagner found-Uh Huh
Posted By: Julie
e-mails. Hee. If I could only think of of something real good. Hmmm...that very card belonged to my grandfather, so I know you stole it and put it in that box! No, maybe not... |
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Another Wagner found-Uh Huh
Posted By: Scottopotamus
For what it's worth, there's a clown on the Beckett Vintage board selling reprints as originals as well. The kicker with his cards is that he sends them away for "carbon dating" and a "research check". Oh, I almost forgot the best part...allm of his cards have been "verified" by Ebay. |
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Another Wagner found-Uh Huh
Posted By: Shane Killian
You asked: |
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Another Wagner found-Uh Huh
Posted By: alinchitown
For those intrested I and some other eBayers who collect, have a reporting blog and discussion board running to report scammers or at least keep track of them: |
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Another Wagner found-Uh Huh
Posted By: Shane Killian
ended with a high bid of over 10K. that's some serious theivery |
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Another Wagner found-Uh Huh
Posted By: alinchitown
Yeah 10K from a snipe bid. For sure the prior bid looked like a shill. I'd almost bet money that after this transaction is done that ID will be NARU. |
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Another Wagner found-Uh Huh
Posted By: davidcycleback
The seller's description and emails are much like the cut-up technique in writing (William S. Burroughs) were you cut up texts and randomly paste them back together to create different meaning and plot-- sort of creating an Alice in Wonderland. |
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Another Wagner found-Uh Huh
Posted By: davidcycleback
Or, my favorite, the picture of the London Life cigarette pack inside the cigar box. What more proof does a bidder need that the Wagner is real? |
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Another Wagner found-Uh Huh
Posted By: Mike P.
Interesting, that he didn't make this a private auction. |
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Another Wagner found-Uh Huh
Posted By: davidcycleback
It reminds of when the scam seller of a T206 Wagner reprint (the infamous blue eyed Wagner?) said the card was discovered in an old house that was being fixed up, and the auction had a picture of "the house." It looked like someoneone drove by in downtown Detroit and snapped a shot of an abandoned house. |
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