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Old 07-27-2020, 04:12 PM
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Not immediately, I will wait a reasonable time, look at the available data, and weigh if it is effective or not and the risks of a probably rushed vaccine, but I would plan on probably getting it.

The death rate is incredibly low, the data suggests that it really does have a death rate under 1% and probably similar to the seasonal flu after all, though it is more contagious, and this thing has been blown way, way out of proportion (I wonder why? hmmm) as the media pretends the Black Plague 2.0 is here.

However, it is still preferable and beneficial to your health to protect against highly-infectious diseases, even if the survival rate is 99.6-99.8% percent. I have pre-existing conditions that make it more likely to be lethal in my case, and so have greater incentive to do so myself.

More importantly, freedom = the right to make your own decisions. That includes poor decisions.
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Old 07-27-2020, 04:18 PM
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Not immediately, I will wait a reasonable time, look at the available data, and weigh if it is effective or not and the risks of a probably rushed vaccine, but I would plan on probably getting it.

The death rate is incredibly low, the data suggests that it really does have a death rate under 1% and probably similar to the seasonal flu after all, though it is more contagious, and this thing has been blown way, way out of proportion (I wonder why? hmmm) as the media pretends the Black Plague 2.0 is here.

However, it is still preferable and beneficial to your health to protect against highly-infectious diseases, even if the survival rate is 99.6-99.8% percent. I have pre-existing conditions that make it more likely to be lethal in my case, and so have greater incentive to do so myself.

More importantly, freedom = the right to make your own decisions. That includes poor decisions.
should ban smoking too......or how about soda...

people keep forgetting about the health damage that is occurring when we stay at home and economy gone as well....
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Old 07-27-2020, 06:04 PM
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should ban smoking too......or how about soda...

people keep forgetting about the health damage that is occurring when we stay at home and economy gone as well....
I don't smoke or drink soda, precisely it is terrible for my health to do so. I am not in favor of banning anything or regulating anything here, so I'm not sure what you are objecting too.
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Old 07-27-2020, 07:25 PM
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I see a lot of people saying (not in this thread) that they are waiting for a vaccine, yet I wonder how many of those people actually understand how ineffectual flu vaccines are in general. Do they expect THIS vaccine to be any more effective? I would wager dollars to donuts that in many people's minds they equate a vaccine to a cure.

That said, I get a flu vaccine every year and would likely get this one myself. For my wife's sake, not mine. If it were JUST me, I probably wouldn't get either.
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Old 07-28-2020, 07:16 AM
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I don't smoke or drink soda, precisely it is terrible for my health to do so. I am not in favor of banning anything or regulating anything here, so I'm not sure what you are objecting too.
not objecting to anything, just saying its a free country..
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Old 07-28-2020, 08:01 AM
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Default side affects

Initial most likley side affects of most Vaccines
Pain, redness, tenderness or swelling at injection site
Fatigue
Headache
Itching at injection site
Nausea
Dizziness or fainting (most common in adolescents)
Fever
Mild rash to severe rash on arms upper torso
these symptoms can last up to 30 days
A recent clinical trial reported that more than one-third of vaccine recipients missed 2-3 days of work or school because of these vaccine-related symptoms
LONG TERM side affects
just look up Ebola Vaccine scary with only a 70% success rate
and handing over billions of dollars to big pharma, yes the Opioide big pharma

sounds like fun sign me up
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Old 07-28-2020, 08:44 AM
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Initial most likley side affects of most Vaccines
Pain, redness, tenderness or swelling at injection site
Fatigue
Headache
Itching at injection site
Nausea
Dizziness or fainting (most common in adolescents)
Fever
Mild rash to severe rash on arms upper torso
these symptoms can last up to 30 days
A recent clinical trial reported that more than one-third of vaccine recipients missed 2-3 days of work or school because of these vaccine-related symptoms
LONG TERM side affects
just look up Ebola Vaccine scary with only a 70% success rate
and handing over billions of dollars to big pharma, yes the Opioide big pharma

sounds like fun sign me up

right but remember it will save the .001 percent of people who contract the virus (will be harder to contract as less will be infected by the time the vaccine is rolled out) AND die of it which will be hard because of many medicines that will also be available to prevent death and bad long term symptoms.....so get ready to sign up..
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Old 07-28-2020, 10:28 PM
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right but remember it will save the .001 percent of people who contract the virus (will be harder to contract as less will be infected by the time the vaccine is rolled out) AND die of it which will be hard because of many medicines that will also be available to prevent death and bad long term symptoms.....so get ready to sign up..
And you know all this despite nobody having enough actual data on anything yet?....

Can I borrow the crystal ball when it's time to pick an investment? It must work really well....
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Old 07-28-2020, 10:25 PM
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Initial most likley side affects of most Vaccines
Pain, redness, tenderness or swelling at injection site
Fatigue
Headache
Itching at injection site
Nausea
Dizziness or fainting (most common in adolescents)
Fever
Mild rash to severe rash on arms upper torso
these symptoms can last up to 30 days
A recent clinical trial reported that more than one-third of vaccine recipients missed 2-3 days of work or school because of these vaccine-related symptoms
LONG TERM side affects
just look up Ebola Vaccine scary with only a 70% success rate
and handing over billions of dollars to big pharma, yes the Opioide big pharma

sounds like fun sign me up
Ebola outbreaks run between 25 and 90% fatalities, averaging 50%... If I'm going somewhere there's a chance of getting it I'll take a 70% chance of effectiveness. (And 70% is the low end of the estimate)
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