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Old 10-03-2020, 05:58 PM
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It appears as though a new mystery and a new discovery were made with the opening of this pack. I was chatting with someone on Facebook who watched the video and is the guy on Youtube who opened 8 packs and pulled 2 of the blackless cards. The Darrin Jackson I pulled has a crease in the bottom center that loops up along the I in Darrin and bends left up just under the jersey button. Wouldn't you know it he has a blackless Darrin Jackson with the IDENTICAL CREASE. I believe it is safe to say the crease is correlated to the ink issue in some way. All of the printing experts out there are free to chime in. The mystery deepens....
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Old 10-03-2020, 08:08 PM
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that was awesome, congrats on the jackson. great card.
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Old 10-04-2020, 09:21 PM
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It appears as though a new mystery and a new discovery were made with the opening of this pack. I was chatting with someone on Facebook who watched the video and is the guy on Youtube who opened 8 packs and pulled 2 of the blackless cards. The Darrin Jackson I pulled has a crease in the bottom center that loops up along the I in Darrin and bends left up just under the jersey button. Wouldn't you know it he has a blackless Darrin Jackson with the IDENTICAL CREASE. I believe it is safe to say the crease is correlated to the ink issue in some way. All of the printing experts out there are free to chime in. The mystery deepens....
Congratulations on your pull. Make sure to join the 1990 Topps Partial Blackless Facebook group.
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Old 10-04-2020, 09:27 PM
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It appears as though a new mystery and a new discovery were made with the opening of this pack. I was chatting with someone on Facebook who watched the video and is the guy on Youtube who opened 8 packs and pulled 2 of the blackless cards. The Darrin Jackson I pulled has a crease in the bottom center that loops up along the I in Darrin and bends left up just under the jersey button. Wouldn't you know it he has a blackless Darrin Jackson with the IDENTICAL CREASE. I believe it is safe to say the crease is correlated to the ink issue in some way. All of the printing experts out there are free to chime in. The mystery deepens....
Congratulations on your pull. Make sure to join the 1990 Topps Partial Blackless Facebook group.
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Old 10-05-2020, 07:54 AM
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Hope it does not make the news that there is a Blackless Facebook group :-)
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Old 10-05-2020, 09:22 AM
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Hope it does not make the news that there is a Blackless Facebook group :-)
AL wins the internet today.
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Old 10-06-2020, 06:21 PM
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Hope it does not make the news that there is a Blackless Facebook group :-)
That took me a minute. Thinking man's humor...I love it.
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Old 10-07-2020, 02:50 PM
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It appears as though a new mystery and a new discovery were made with the opening of this pack. I was chatting with someone on Facebook who watched the video and is the guy on Youtube who opened 8 packs and pulled 2 of the blackless cards. The Darrin Jackson I pulled has a crease in the bottom center that loops up along the I in Darrin and bends left up just under the jersey button. Wouldn't you know it he has a blackless Darrin Jackson with the IDENTICAL CREASE. I believe it is safe to say the crease is correlated to the ink issue in some way. All of the printing experts out there are free to chime in. The mystery deepens....

Very cool finds! However, the wrinkle does not have anything to do with the causation of the error.
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Old 10-07-2020, 03:41 PM
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Very cool finds! However, the wrinkle does not have anything to do with the causation of the error.
What leads you to that conclusion? Not here to argue, but two blackless with identical creases would be indicative of there being correlation. I suppose I should open a box to see i a normal Jackson has the same crease though. I'm far from an expert here...
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Old 10-07-2020, 06:02 PM
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What leads you to that conclusion? Not here to argue, but two blackless with identical creases would be indicative of there being correlation. I suppose I should open a box to see i a normal Jackson has the same crease though. I'm far from an expert here...
It defies the theories put forward by multiple printing experts on this thread and the main one on the CU forum. My best advice is just to read both of those threads. You don’t even have to leave this site, just go back one page. Every printing causation theory is discussed ad nauseam right on this thread. Finding a similar wrinkle on two cards is fairly interesting but not that uncommon and definitely not related to the cause of the errors.
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Old 06-13-2021, 09:20 PM
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https://www.ebay.com/itm/13378836174...0AAOSwbSdgxlL0

now apparently sammy sosa is part of all this
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https://www.ebay.com/itm/13378836174...0AAOSwbSdgxlL0

now apparently sammy sosa is part of all this
LOL, thanks for the laugh. It is sad to see people with a decent ebay history pulling these type of scams. They should leave them for the zero feedback sellers.

One of my favorites was when a seller was selling missing red ink cards when the cards weren't missing the red ink.
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Darn, you mean these are not true redless cards

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