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Old 11-08-2021, 04:56 AM
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One of the beauties of Netflx is that you can go in and out of anything and fast forward/backward to any spot in the show. You can go into the film/documentary and find where Bill Burns is starting to talk about the Camp Granada song aroung the 9:20 mark in the film. They much later on near the end of the film go into the events and details of the crash, with Rossington doing most of the talking. Around the 1:28:50 mark of the film Pyle starts talking about waking up and seeing his friends bleeding and dying, so barefoot and with chest injuries he takes off into the woods looking for a farm house or someone to get help for everyone. And that was all that was said about it in this film. There was no mention of other band members hating him after that for having taken off from the crash site. At least not in this documentary film by Showtime.
It must have been in another doc or one of the numerous interviews with the bandmates.
Here is a clip of Artimus talking about Judy and her attempts at stopping the film and how he was basically shunned from the band.
I recall watching something with Gary Rossington and another band member specifically talking about Artimus and how they don't like him nor do they believe his story about seeking help after the plane crash.
Not sure I'll be able to find anymore, however?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xKtZN5Kog0

In this clip, Gary talks about it near the very end. Sounds like he forgives him now and just wants to move on but he does mention the riff, or whatever it was after the 10 minute mark.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBHjU1gMxrA

"Why Artimus Plye isn't part of Lynyrd Skynyrd's farwell tour"
https://ultimateclassicrock.com/arti...nterview-2020/

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Old 11-08-2021, 08:42 PM
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It must have been in another doc or one of the numerous interviews with the bandmates.
Here is a clip of Artimus talking about Judy and her attempts at stopping the film and how he was basically shunned from the band.
I recall watching something with Gary Rossington and another band member specifically talking about Artimus and how they don't like him nor do they believe his story about seeking help after the plane crash.
Not sure I'll be able to find anymore, however?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xKtZN5Kog0

In this clip, Gary talks about it near the very end. Sounds like he forgives him now and just wants to move on but he does mention the riff, or whatever it was after the 10 minute mark.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBHjU1gMxrA

"Why Artimus Plye isn't part of Lynyrd Skynyrd's farwell tour"
https://ultimateclassicrock.com/arti...nterview-2020/
Funny, but everything I was seeing in your clips sounded more like it had to do with Judy Van Zant taking control of everything, and her and the management company taking and not sharing any money with band members like Artimus. Kind of hard to believe Pyle and Rossington are about the only two pre-crash band members still around. The one clip you attached talked about two members of the band's road crew even following Pyle as he left the crash site to go looking for help. And how when Pyle finally came upon a nearby farmer, the guy actually shot him. So that doesn't sound like the rest of the band was necessarily pissed at him for going to get help. More like because of his vocal comments against Judy for controlling things and taking his and other band member's money, and then for all the lawsuits and legal actions she brought against him when he went to do his own movie and book. Lot of different moving parts to this puzzle it sounds like.
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Old 11-09-2021, 07:23 AM
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Funny, but everything I was seeing in your clips sounded more like it had to do with Judy Van Zant taking control of everything, and her and the management company taking and not sharing any money with band members like Artimus. Kind of hard to believe Pyle and Rossington are about the only two pre-crash band members still around. The one clip you attached talked about two members of the band's road crew even following Pyle as he left the crash site to go looking for help. And how when Pyle finally came upon a nearby farmer, the guy actually shot him. So that doesn't sound like the rest of the band was necessarily pissed at him for going to get help. More like because of his vocal comments against Judy for controlling things and taking his and other band member's money, and then for all the lawsuits and legal actions she brought against him when he went to do his own movie and book. Lot of different moving parts to this puzzle it sounds like.
Well, read into what you will, but I know in the vid I seen, Gary and another bandmate totally disagree with Artimus's story.
In this vid, not the one I am referring to, Gary also talks of it at the 11:00 minute mark onward but yet near the end of this video, the farmer says he ran into Artimus so it makes Gary's story seem fabricated/untrue and was said, as Artimus stated, just to hurt him.
You'll also hear in the vid where the farmer denies shooting at Artimus but I know Artimus has stuck with that story over the years so who do you believe?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFIkQjDtwOw

Lots of ugly going on, or was, with this band, but that seems to be the norm with a lot of big bands that have been together for a lot of years.

Lies, he said, she said, innuendo's, conjecture, and all sorts of different takes on the stories so it's highly unlikely you me or anyone else will ever be able to figure things out.

It's sad it came to this, but like I said above, not entirely out of the norm for these big bands.
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Just to watch him die
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Well, read into what you will, but I know in the vid I seen, Gary and another bandmate totally disagree with Artimus's story.
In this vid, not the one I am referring to, Gary also talks of it at the 11:00 minute mark onward but yet near the end of this video, the farmer says he ran into Artimus so it makes Gary's story seem fabricated/untrue and was said, as Artimus stated, just to hurt him.
You'll also hear in the vid where the farmer denies shooting at Artimus but I know Artimus has stuck with that story over the years so who do you believe?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFIkQjDtwOw

Lots of ugly going on, or was, with this band, but that seems to be the norm with a lot of big bands that have been together for a lot of years.

Lies, he said, she said, innuendo's, conjecture, and all sorts of different takes on the stories so it's highly unlikely you me or anyone else will ever be able to figure things out.

It's sad it came to this, but like I said above, not entirely out of the norm for these big bands.

Strange story for sure. The actual truth is probably somewhere in the middle. And as Artimus alludes to, I wouldn't be surprised if money has a prominent role somewhere in all this.
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