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Get your very own PSA encapsulated reprint 1869 Peck & Snyder
Posted By: Dan
for only $99.99! |
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Get your very own PSA encapsulated reprint 1869 Peck & Snyder
Posted By: dennis
times are tough...... |
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Get your very own PSA encapsulated reprint 1869 Peck & Snyder
Posted By: doug goodman
What is WRONG with these companies?! |
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Get your very own PSA encapsulated reprint 1869 Peck & Snyder
Posted By: Matt
lots of cheap publicity for the auction. |
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Get your very own PSA encapsulated reprint 1869 Peck & Snyder
Posted By: Rob D.
As ridiculous as this is, I think there's precedence for it. Didn't either PSA or SGC encapsulate reprints of a rare Josh Gibson card (maybe a Cuban issue?) that the auction house used for promotional purposes? I think this was in the past five years. |
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Get your very own PSA encapsulated reprint 1869 Peck & Snyder
Posted By: S Gross
Bugs Bunny: Would you like to shoot me now or wait till you get home? |
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Get your very own PSA encapsulated reprint 1869 Peck & Snyder
Posted By: Frank Wakefield
I think Leon should scan his quarter, make prints, hand number them, get PSA to grade 'em, and try selling them. I'd buy one of Leon's quarter, but not at that $99 level. |
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Get your very own PSA encapsulated reprint 1869 Peck & Snyder
Posted By: dennis
SGC did encapsulate the 1950-1 gibson but they were sent out to people FREE to promote lelands auction selling the card. |
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Get your very own PSA encapsulated reprint 1869 Peck & Snyder
Posted By: Rob D.
Dennis, given your use of ALL CAPS, I take it your problem is that Memory Lane is selling these, not the fact that PSA slabbed reprints (knowingly, I mean)? |
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Get your very own PSA encapsulated reprint 1869 Peck & Snyder
Posted By: dennis
i really don't have that much of a problem with them selling the card but $99.00 is a little steep. |
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Get your very own PSA encapsulated reprint 1869 Peck & Snyder
Posted By: Rob D.
My initial reaction on the price was the same as yours. But, for the time being at least, we're living in a country where the market dictates the price of things. Who knows, maybe Memory Lane will sell out (insert PSA joke here). |
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Get your very own PSA encapsulated reprint 1869 Peck & Snyder
Posted By: Mike
Remember all submittions are unknown to PSA or the graders. That's why cards like this are made !!! How about a personal collection like Lionel Carter etc. You mean the graders didn't know they were grading this collection. |
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Get your very own PSA encapsulated reprint 1869 Peck & Snyder
Posted By: PC
PSA will slab anything to make buck, and Memory Lane is simply trolling for suckers. Hopefully they will lose money, since I doubt there are enough fools willing to pay $99 for such junk to make this stunt profitable. |
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Get your very own PSA encapsulated reprint 1869 Peck & Snyder
Posted By: Rob D.
PC, after I thought about it, I figured that because PSA slabbed the Peck & Snyder card that was discovered and Memory Lane is auctioning it, then PSA likely didn't charge anything to provide the slabbed reprints. As Matt says, it's cheap publicity for the auction, and the higher the price realized, the better PSA looks. So the chance that Memory Lane will lose money hawking these is pretty much nil. |
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Get your very own PSA encapsulated reprint 1869 Peck & Snyder
Posted By: Anthony S.
Would Leon react poorly to someone writing 35/100 in the margin of his Peck & Snyder? |
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Get your very own PSA encapsulated reprint 1869 Peck & Snyder
Posted By: Fred C
I guess when you sit back and think about it, nothing should surprise us anymore. I can see giving this away as a promo item or to people that go a lot of business with a company but to actually charge $99 for it is a bit of a stretch. I think I'll offer $5 for it and see if they reply. |
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Get your very own PSA encapsulated reprint 1869 Peck & Snyder
Posted By: Fred C
Anthony, |
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Get your very own PSA encapsulated reprint 1869 Peck & Snyder
Posted By: E, Daniel
And unless your chief issue is with grading per se and you just want to take a free quick jab, it strikes me as strange to find honest issue with this offer. |
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Get your very own PSA encapsulated reprint 1869 Peck & Snyder
Posted By: Dan Bretta
For the record I did not start this to bash PSA...maybe just a little bit, but really I think this would make PT Barnum proud. And more power to them, but I think they've overestimated the appeal of a card that says "memorylaneinc reprint" right on the front of the card. It only took two minutes for someone to hit the BIN on that Fan Craze Reulbach that was posted here the other day....so far this has been up for nearly two hours and they've had zero takers on this limited edition HAND NUMBERED!!!!! reprint. |
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Get your very own PSA encapsulated reprint 1869 Peck & Snyder
Posted By: Rob D.
I don't think you're a sap for owning a model of a boat that you'd never be able to afford. However, if you're taking that model to a marina every year to have it winterized and paying for storage, then I'd have to reconsider. |
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Get your very own PSA encapsulated reprint 1869 Peck & Snyder
Posted By: barrysloate
Leland's also made a reprint of the Reccius Wagner and had it encapsulated by PSA (maybe someone mentioned this earlier in the thread, I didn't read through). |
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Get your very own PSA encapsulated reprint 1869 Peck & Snyder
Posted By: Richard Dwyer
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Get your very own PSA encapsulated reprint 1869 Peck & Snyder
Posted By: PC
Rob -- while the scheme appears to be Memory Lane's (since the reprints bear their name), it is possible that PSA didn't charge Memory Lane to slab those reprints. So, Memory Lane may not be out much of anything, other than pride, which may have already been lacking since they are floating these for $99. |
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Get your very own PSA encapsulated reprint 1869 Peck & Snyder
Posted By: Eric B
Memory Lane is definitely going to lose money on this (on commissions), but not as much as the consigner. I've always wanted a Peck & Snyder and if I was wealthy I would buy one. But not this one - not with 100 copies around to cheapen the original. |
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Get your very own PSA encapsulated reprint 1869 Peck & Snyder
Posted By: Steve
I would think the bashing should be of Memory lane and not PSA. |
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Get your very own PSA encapsulated reprint 1869 Peck & Snyder
Posted By: Sean C
PSA was wrong to slab the reprints, no matter what Memory Lane was paying them to do so. Guess they are desperate for the publicity. Memory Lane is wrong to try to sell the reprints, but then again there is very little JP could do that would surprise me at this point. |
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Get your very own PSA encapsulated reprint 1869 Peck & Snyder
Posted By: JB
I have been perplexed about this whole graded reprint stuff myself. I have seen BGS graded reprints as well, and with BIDS on the item..........i do not get it. |
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Get your very own PSA encapsulated reprint 1869 Peck & Snyder
Posted By: Tony Galovich
Why anyone would pay such A outrageous price for a Reprint |
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Get your very own PSA encapsulated reprint 1869 Peck & Snyder
Posted By: E, Daniel
"Most people when go to resell any of their products sell at A Loss |
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Get your very own PSA encapsulated reprint 1869 Peck & Snyder
Posted By: Steve
Can't argue with the above logic. |
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Get your very own PSA encapsulated reprint 1869 Peck & Snyder
Posted By: leon
I have no issue with reprints and graded reprints. At least they are not fooling folks in a scam. That being said I think it does sort of "cheapen" the real McCoy a little bit. I doubt the real ones will go down in value due to all of the pubilicity though. Memory Lane said the one they have is: |
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Get your very own PSA encapsulated reprint 1869 Peck & Snyder
Posted By: Rob D.
I don't remember anyone on this thread bashing the idea of reprints (I haven't gone back and re-read every post). My problem is a grading company slabbing them. |
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Get your very own PSA encapsulated reprint 1869 Peck & Snyder
Posted By: E, Daniel
Hi Rob. |
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Get your very own PSA encapsulated reprint 1869 Peck & Snyder
Posted By: E, Daniel
or perhaps this: |
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Get your very own PSA encapsulated reprint 1869 Peck & Snyder
Posted By: Rob D.
OK, fair enough, some people are on record as not liking reprints. |
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Get your very own PSA encapsulated reprint 1869 Peck & Snyder
Posted By: leon
First of all I don't see me writing on my Peck and Snyder. I am sort of bumping this as our friend Dan M must not have seen this thread. |
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Get your very own PSA encapsulated reprint 1869 Peck & Snyder
Posted By: dan mckee
Yes I did miss this thread sorry Leon and never a problem locking or canning any of my posts. Dan |
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Get your very own PSA encapsulated reprint 1869 Peck & Snyder
Posted By: Rob D.
That's fine, Leon, I don't mind disagreeing on this. A case could be made that grading companies already have moved the line by agreeing to slab almost anything -- photos from picture packs, magazine photos, ticket stubs, etc. But at least in those cases the items have been vintage and authentic (again, most of the time.) |
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Get your very own PSA encapsulated reprint 1869 Peck & Snyder
Posted By: leon
I know you and I are a lot alike (Please, no one hold that against Rob)...and really enjoyed our brief conversation last night. Yes, the one thing that college taught me was that good, intelligent folks that I respect, can disagree with me 100% and we can stil be friends and see eye to eye on many other things. IF I were a grading company and could grade elephants for money, I would do it. I am a live and let live kinda guy .....take care now |
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Get your very own PSA encapsulated reprint 1869 Peck & Snyder
Posted By: Steve
Not sure if it was mentioned in between the PSA bashing |
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Get your very own PSA encapsulated reprint 1869 Peck & Snyder
Posted By: Brian
Haven't each of the big three graded/slabbed reprints? |
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Get your very own PSA encapsulated reprint 1869 Peck & Snyder
Posted By: dennis
i think the point is psa and ml slabbed 100 of these to sell at $99.00. other companys may have graded reprints from a paying customer.customer pays they slab that is their business. sgc slabbed the gibson as a promo and those were free it promoted their auction w/lelands.....next up, is psa going to slab a copy of the gretzky wagner and produce a lmt. run of say 100 at $99.00. i think this will be a moot point since i don't think there will be buyers buying these. esp. not at $99.00....maybe at $9.99.if these were free to good customers of ml i don't think there would be a thread bashing them. |
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Get your very own PSA encapsulated reprint 1869 Peck & Snyder
Posted By: leon
I agree...Though I am a capitalist I don't think the $99 was a good idea...and I guess neither did ML after thinking about it, hence it was taken down from ebay....best regards |
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Get your very own PSA encapsulated reprint 1869 Peck & Snyder
Posted By: Steve
"i think the point is psa and ml slabbed 100 of these to sell at $99.00". |
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Get your very own PSA encapsulated reprint 1869 Peck & Snyder
Posted By: Jay
This card and much associated with it has taken on a circus atmosphere. The card is nice, but certainly not a great rarity nor a $100,000 card. It is, I believe, in pretty bad shape relative to most Cincinnati Peck & Snyders. The slabbing of reprints of the card by PSA was wrong--aren't grading companies supposed to authenticate cards and evaluate their condition. Why authenticate a copy of something. This is not just a PSA comment; it equally applies to SGC and any other grading companies who sell their souls for a few extra dollars. Finally, Memory Lane selling these reprints on Ebay was just crazy. It doesn't devalue the Peck and Snyder, in my opinion, it diminishes the reputation of the auction house. I just feel sorry for the poor woman who found this card for having to associate with all these people. |
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Get your very own PSA encapsulated reprint 1869 Peck & Snyder
Posted By: dennis
steve i don't know the story behind this. A)perhaps psa slabbed them thinking they were to be handed out to customers as a promo,and found out they were selling and made ml end auction.B) that ml was going to be selling at $99.00 and would share in the spoils. |
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Get your very own PSA encapsulated reprint 1869 Peck & Snyder
Posted By: Steve
Or E none of the above. |
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Get your very own PSA encapsulated reprint 1869 Peck & Snyder
Posted By: Bill
This is why my card collecting has come to a stand still. My other Hobby...my Koi Pond has been my main concern. My hobby interests were mainly old cardboard, Coins....but now I'm obsesses with Fish. |
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Get your very own PSA encapsulated reprint 1869 Peck & Snyder
Posted By: PC
Daniel -- I repeat, those reprints are junk, marking them as "limited editions" was stupid, slabbing them was unnecessary, and ML attempting to sell them for $99 was an inexcusable attempt to ripoff collectors and newbies alike. |
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Get your very own PSA encapsulated reprint 1869 Peck & Snyder
Posted By: Steve
Or they got an earful today from many collectors. |
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