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I think we just set the mark for consecutive non-confrontational posts on this thread. Well done, Frank!
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Aah, so this is why the BBC decided to have the doctor they previously ridiculed, shunned and shamed on their news.
They are trying to save face and retain some viewership. Personally, I hope them and many others all go under for the censorship, lies and fake news they spread. https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/202...vaccine-video/ https://twitter.com/stkirsch/status/...DT3YXp5uksAAAA Signs being posted all over NY City now supposedly?
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Hmm, and just like the BBC did, as soon as Elon Musk exposed the CBC for being nothing other than a Liberal, fake news spreading propaganda site, they also decided to start talking about the vaccine injured.
Albeit, this is a somewhat insignificant side affect, of the known 1200 plus, compared to the heart attacks and blood clotting side affects that are rampant, but at least it's a start. Quebec man's COVID vaccine story spurs others to come forward Canadians who say they suffered adverse reactions dealing with silence, stigma According to the Public Health Agency of Canada, only a tiny fraction — 0.011 per cent — of the more than 95 million vaccine doses administered in this country as of Dec. 9 resulted in serious adverse reactions. But that's still more than 10,000 reported cases. Otahbachi, who had never experienced any skin problems before, told CBC that throughout his ordeal, most of the doctors who examined him dismissed the possibility of any link between the vaccine and the sudden onset of his painful condition. "I told [them] I'm not against the vaccine, but the vaccine damaged my body," he said. "The doctors that I've been to, all of them were scared." Does that sound like freedom to anyone? Afraid to speak out due to the repercussions of possibly losing your job? That is fascism people. "That's the difficult part. It's like, we played along — now what?" "This is where it's so painful, because there is no help in dealing with this." https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottaw...20in%20Ontario. https://twitter.com/TheRealKeean/sta...45404097417216
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"Micheal Yeadon, PHD and former Vice President & Chief Science Officer of Allergy and Respiratory Research at Pfizer Inc
HERE'S WHY 17,000 DOCTORS AND SCIENTISTS CALL FOR BIG PHARMA CRIMINAL INDICTMENTS https://rumble.com/v25uksu-heres-why...l-indictm.html
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can we sue if vaccine mandated yet?
Just wondering..
Are ERs full? still have the same attitudes by many pro vaccine people as they had 2 years ago.... guess should close schools down as well so parents cant work... |
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Jake Tapper on CNN talking exactly about that: (And some will see Twitter and won't even watch it because they've been brainwashed so badly. ) CNN's Jake Tapper rips into "misleading" COVID hospitalization numbers. "We're 2 years into this ... if somebody's in the hospital with a broken leg and they also have asymptomatic COVID, that should not be counted as hospitalized with covid, clearly." https://twitter.com/NickFondacaro/st...72856409354250 It's also the same/similar lie they use today. They tell you the hospitals are over capacity, overrun but they don't tell you the reason why in the fact that most hospitals, because they fired so many doctors and nurses for not getting vaccinated, are way understaffed currently and therefore tell you they are overwhelmed. It goes on and on and on and on and on. One lie after the other but yet some people still believe no one lied to them and that the vaccines still work. How many people were denied life saving procedures, medical help and assistance because the were denied access to hospitals because they were unvaccinated? How many people died because they were so afraid to go to a hospital, despite being vaccinated, because they thought they could catch covid and die while being around other people who actually did catch covid? How many people actually died because of the vaccines, but yet, since the CDC and the like said one wasn't considered truly vaccinated until 2 weeks after the injection, it wasn't counted as a vaccine death? It's crazy. All these lies from the very beginning but yet instead of being angry/mad and irate at those who actually told and spread the lies ruining people's lives, including killing them, they are angry at the messengers instead. If that isn't a brainwashed mad weird, I don't know what is?
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So its about lawyers wanting to look for work is your argument of why its ok cant sue for mandated vaccines now even though companies have made billions in profit.... you are fine with that it appears...ok to sue for all other things like falling on water but if health declines due to taking a mandated drug you are out of luck and you are great with that (as your argument was 'you are asking about suing because you are looking for work?) thats your argument against being able to sue.....im sure there are many that agree with you as well..heck maybe its the majority that agree with you . I am of the extreme opinion that people should be able to sue for that now..... Last edited by 1952boyntoncollector; 01-18-2023 at 07:35 AM. |
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This is your media people, you know, the ones who always tell you the truth and would never dare lie to you.
https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/17/us/gr...ate/index.html https://globalnews.ca/news/9416046/g...lage-protests/ https://www.cnbc.com/2023/01/17/gret...olice-say.html https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-64309628 All staged, but instead of being angry at your Liberal funded MSM sites, be mad at Twitter for exposing the lies instead. https://twitter.com/goddeketal/statu...C-ybaAkOwsAAAA https://twitter.com/goddeketal/statu...C-ybaAkOwsAAAA
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I wish they had, I really wish they had. Now they are so far entrenched in it, Fauci could come to their house and say "we overreacted " and the believers wouldnt believe him.
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Also people forget that the save every life argument is the easy argument to make...if people died in schools like they said they would, heads would roll people would get fired. the opposite happened and nobody gets fired ... Last edited by 1952boyntoncollector; 01-19-2023 at 10:21 AM. |
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What seems clear is that the enthusiastic, religious devotion to the dogma — “masks work” — signified adherence to a set of beliefs: I mask therefore I am good. I mask my children therefore I am loyal to the Democratic Party and public health diktats. I mask therefore I care. I am a loyal follower of “the Science.” My faith is unwavering.
Those who claim to be on the side of “the Science” will continue to push unscientific policies in order to prove that they were right all along. This is the sunk cost fallacy writ large. Don’t admit mistakes. Ignore the actual science in favor of “the Science.” And continue to punish those who challenge. As well as those most vulnerable who simply aren’t in a position to challenge at all. “Science” has apparently been rebranded by the left. It is now a slogan — a tagline — shouted at heretics to signify one’s moral superiority and loyalty to the party. What we have now is “science” that ignores the scientific method, which means “the science” is a cult. And a dangerous one at that. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIUaG25EFjM And some still don't think they were part of the experiment. Odd, isn't it, even some MSM sites like this one are now questioning the planned, real reason behind this plan-demic. Bill Gates MRNA Grift EXPOSED? Billionaire TRASHES Jab Despite Reaping MASSIVE Profits https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGctGh3vvJg
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I love when you reply to my posts, Ben. You remind everyone you took the short bus to school without actually having to say you did.
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Dale---this is exactly what happened to me when Larry proved that there actually is a Topps 1968 Mays Plak
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Oops.
Looks like lots were in on this plan-demic, and I imagine many are getting pretty worried now wishing they had some morals, values and integrity back then when they blindly agreed to follow along like a bunch of dumb sheep. No need to watch this. It's Twitter after all, and I'm sure your favorite funded by Pfizer MSM sites will surely be covering this congressional hearing. "HOLY $H!T... The former Twitter executives are F***ED, and so is the FBI. Rep. Nancy Mace may have just single-handedly sent them all to GITMO! #TwitterFiles #FBI #NancyMace" https://twitter.com/MattClarkReport/...sera5g26s%3D19
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Conspiracy fact #248.
Remember that time they said natural immunity was a conspiracy theory and the tin hat wearing morons should be ignored/ridiculed/shunned and denied health care and any freedoms due to this death causing misinformation. Our Liberal idiot in charge up here wondered how they should tolerate such people. Right out of Hitler's hand book, where he brainwashed over 70 million people, into compliance. Yesterday’s “harmful misinformation” is on NBC now. Immunity acquired from a Covid infection is as protective as vaccination against severe illness and death, study finds The immunity generated from an infection was found to be “at least as high, if not higher” than that provided by two doses of an mRNA vaccine. https://www.nbcnews.com/health/healt...ness-rcna71027
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Walk it back slowly!
Just like washing your hands vs wearing a mask for protection against a virus. Know what you believe to be true, as nobody has your best interest at heart.
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I also worked in the pharmaceutical industry for a long time and was concerned when President Trump was pushing the covid vaccine so hard. When they gave the placebo group in the clinical trials the vaccine after three months, that sealed the deal for me. Without long-term safety studies it was a risk I was not willing to take. The most shocking thing of the whole period was how much pressure was applied to try and get me to change my mind. My family begged, yelled, cried and shamed me. Friends did the same. Society and the goverment tried every possible carrot and stick to get me to take the vaccine. It was relentless and powerful. Quite the learning experience. |
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So the NBC article being cited by Dale Irvin and others states the following:
“The problem of saying ‘I’m gonna get infected to get immunity’ is you might be one of those people that end up in the hospital or die,” Murray said. “Why would you take the risk when you can get immunity through vaccination quite safely?” It also states: "Having Covid before the omicron variant emerged didn't do much to stop reinfection with the mutated version: Protection from reinfection in that case was 74% after one month but fell to 36% by month 10." So I am really not sure why someone like Dale Irvin would cite this article if they are anti-vax. Last edited by cgjackson222; 02-18-2023 at 12:44 AM. |
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Pushing you to take it versus forcing you (lose your job etc, close schools ) two different things.. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/don...perts-n1207411 Last edited by 1952boyntoncollector; 02-18-2023 at 07:18 AM. |
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Did you learn anything, learn, at least, the whole shit show was just theatre, just a distraction, a sideshow to get people like you from looking at what your current govt has been up to and all their malfeasance? Heard of Ray Epps before? Funny, don't you think, how, even though he is on video enticing and orchestrating the whole thing, he got a complete pass. Find it odd that you need to sign into youtube to view the video of him doing exactly that? And some think youtube is not left leaning and biased. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brap0Sphcmk You claim you're smart feller but you can't even see the fact our current govt's are trampling all over our constitutions. Lockdowns, passports, mandates, division, controlling of the media, etc, etc, etc. I take it you're not too familiar with how Hitler brainwashed and controlled over 70 million people? You should educate yourself some more if you can't see any similarities.
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And LOL still thinking/believing they are actual vaccines instead of just experimental, first time ever used, for emergency purposes only, product injections.
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Why couldn't they be both? You know actual vaccines used for emergency purposes. It really was an emergency in the real world I live in were I had friends die and a brother that still has long term covid problems.
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I live in a place Covid hit hard and early. In our small community(around 15K) everything bad that was predicted could happen did. Here the only people that never got it are the ones that got vaccinated and at least one booster. I live in a rural area that don't like to be told what to do so he easily 90% of the population ended up getting Covid. The only exception was the people who double masked up like the workers at the hospitals and dentist offices. Even without the vaccine they did way better than the general population. This is real life not some BS I found on the internet. I do understand things are different in different places. I would love to hear real experiences. Silly links to facebook. twitter, and youtube will be ignored or laughed at like they deserve to be. |
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Sure, it was always a choice. No one was being held down and getting injected. But the mandates were real. And choosing to not follow the vaccine mandate had real world, dire consequences for many people. Lose your job, lose your health insurance, maybe lose your house. The pressure was immense, including societal ostracization. And now we know that the government agencies were working with big tech to censor any voices questioning the government vaccine narrative (Twitter files). Massive first amendment violations. |
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Still cant sue if get sick from a vaccine...if not an emergency to take now and no longer in pandemic why cant the vaccine bet treated like all other drugs if they get people sick...billions have been made already...not even from a percent of the profits? Until allowed to sue if sick from the vaccine..no other argument makes sense to me that supports it
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Government agencies have admitted that the vaccine does have some adverse health consequences, so it baffles me that the pharma companies can still advertise the vaccines without any caveats. Every other drug has to include a lengthy list of possible side effects as part of any advertisement. Why don't the vaccine ads have to include warning about myocarditis and pericarditis? Blanket immunity. They don't care about your health, they care about profit. In one quarter Pfizer had revenue of $10 billion in their vaccine lines alone. Pfizer is the biggest advertiser in the USA and are huge advertisers in big tech and mass media, so it is not surprising that the "safe and effective" narrative never got seriously challenged in the main stream messaging. As the say, follow the money. |
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Hasn't 99.99% of every business ever on the entire planet only cared about profit and couldn't care less about your health? I might not get your post but I do appreciate you posting your POV instead of silly links. Last edited by bnorth; 02-18-2023 at 11:34 AM. |
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Adverse affects can be worse than sickness in many cases.
Least to 97.9% of the population
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People have learned to trust in our societies ability to institute regulatory guides to help ensure that products brought to market are safe for consumers, though you would think that the systems past failures would give people pause. Still, the rigorous safety testing and regulatory monitoring has seemed to work fairly well. When I worked in the pharma industry before everything went digital, they would print out all of the reviewed and approved toxicology studies, nonclinical trial data, and clinical trial data to put into three ring binders, then back up a huge truck to load and send to the FDA for review. It would take years to get new drugs approved because of the need to see how the new product affected the body over the long-term. The FDA review and approval process determined if the product was safe. Pharmaceutical companies' ads only can claim to help what was specifically tested and they must always detail safety specifics because compounds interact differently for men and women, various age cohorts, people with certain conditions or on other medications, pregnant women, etc. The final guardrail is the ability of the consumer to get restitution if the product causes harm when the corporation claimed it was safe. It is small consolation for those injured or dead, but it is incentive for the manufacturers to make sure they do not cut corners. All of the guardrails our society has set up to ensure product safety, were violated in some way with the covid vaccines. Federal regulatory agencies and even the media used to be great watchdogs to keep corporations in line, it no longer feels like that is the case. |
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I suggest if you’re going to be tossing out the “Hitler” and “nazi” stuff, you get outside of 4chan and you educate yourself. I highly doubt you will though as the topic is well above your level of intelligence. It requires actual study and research to include outside your realm of comfort. Thus why places like twitter, Facebook, and YouTube appeal to you. Little thought involved and when you see something that aligns with your bias, then it must be true. You’re truly a mentally small individual. In regards to “brainwashing,” I also suggest you read up on Goebbels and his propaganda machine. Then read about the recent Dominion/Fox News revelations. You may have missed those though as the right wing media apparently didn’t want to touch it. Last edited by BCauley; 02-18-2023 at 04:14 PM. Reason: Added last section |
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