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Old 04-05-2019, 02:15 PM
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The down grading thought has never crossed my mind. Now if I had some PSA 8's, 9's, or 10's, then I'd more than likely down grade them to 4's. Top pop is less important to me and getting other cards I need is more important.
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T206 Basic "The Monster" Set 514/524
T206 Advanced "Master Monster" Front/Back Set ????/5258
COMPLETE T206 BACK SUBSETS
Old Mill Southern Leagues - Black Ink 48/48
Sweet Caporal 350-460 Factory 30 Full Color "No Prints" 28/28
NEAR COMPLETE T206 BACK SUBSETS
Polar Bear 245/250
Sovereign 460 50/52
Sweet Caporal 150 Factory 649 Overprint 31/34
Piedmont 350 "Elite 11" 9/11

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Old 04-05-2019, 07:14 PM
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Default T206 Reference....Reflections.....And then, there are times to down-grade your T206's

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The down grading thought has never crossed my mind. Now if I had some PSA 8's, 9's, or 10's, then I'd more than likely down grade them to 4's. Top pop is less important to me and getting other cards I need is more important.
Hi Ron

I learned this trick when I broke-up my 2nd T206 set (in order to assemble my all-PIEDMONT set). I had six T206 HOFers in that 2nd set that graded very high (7's and 8's).
By selling those gems, I was able to afford purchasing twenty HOFers and approx. 50 commons for my PIEDMONT set.
Like you, I'm a collector....not an "investor" in cardboard


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Old 04-06-2019, 07:20 PM
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Default T206 Reference....Reflections.....And then, there are times to down-grade your T206's

As I have already said, if I am lucky enough to have a T206 which grades a 7, or 8, or 9, I don't hold onto it. Shucks, I cannot discern any difference between these cards, anyway.

My T206 collection ranges from Vg to Ex cards. And, I'm very happy with them. The greater majority of them are un-graded. Here are some examples of my highest graded T206's.


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Old 04-16-2019, 07:49 AM
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Default T206 REFERENCE/Reflections....Black LENOX checklist...and show us your LENOX cards

* * * * * * * * * * * * T206 Reference, Theory's, Surveys, etc. * * * * * * * * * * * *


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LENOX cigarettes were manufactured at Factory #30 in New York. The LENOX brand was mainly distributed in New York, New England, and New Jersey.
AMERICAN BEAUTY 460, LENOX, and UZIT cards were the last T206's printed by American Lithographic (circa January/February 1911).
The Exclusive 12 subjects in the 460-only series were NOT printed with LENOX backs.


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My first LENOX card acquired in Cooperstown in 1991 for $15.





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Black LENOX confirmed list........

To date....a total of 81 subjects have been confirmed (from a possible 96 subjects. The series breakdown is as follows:

350/460 Series......47 confirmed Black LENOX cards

Ames (hands over head)
Baker
Bender (no trees)
Berger
Bradley (bat)
M. Brown (Chicago)
Burch (fielding)
Chance (yellow portrait)
Chase (blue portrait)
Chase (dark cap)
Cobb (red portrait)
Cobb (bat off shoulder)
Crawford (bat)
Davis (A's)
Donlin (bat)
Doolan (bat)
Dougherty (arm in air)
Downey (bat)
Doyle (bat)
Elberfeld (Washington-fielding)

Griffith (bat)
Jennings (one hand)
Johnson (pitching)
Jordan (bat)
Joss (pitching)
Kleinow (Boston)
Konetchy (glove low)
Lake (no ball)
Leach (cap)
Leifield (bat)
Magee (bat)
Manning (pitching)
McIntyre (Brooklyn & Chicago)
McQuillan (bat)
Murphy (bat)
Reulbach (no glove)
Rucker (throwing)
Seymour (throwing)
F. Smith (Chicago & Boston)
Street (catching)

Tinker (bat off shoulder)
White (pitching)
Willetts
Willis (bat)
Willis (throwing)
Wiltse (throwing)
CYoung (glove)


460-only Series....34 confirmed Black LENOX cards (complete)

Abbaticcio (blue sleeve)
Ball (Cleveland)
Bell (follow thru)
Bergen (catching)
Bescher (arms over head)
Bridwell (portrait-cap)
Camnitz (arms over head)
Camnitz (arms side)
Chance (bat)
Chase (trophy)
Doyle (portrait)
Frill
Herzog (Boston)
Howell (hands)
Lake (ball-St Louis)
Latham
Marquard (follow thru)
McGraw (portrait-cap)
Merkle (throwing)
Meyers (portrait)

Murray (portrait)
Needham
Oldring (bat)
Overall (blue sky)
Payne
Schaefer (Washington)
Schlei (portrait)
Schlei (bat)
Schulte (back view)
Seymour (portrait)
Smith (Brooklyn)
Stovall (bat)
Tinker (bat on shoulder)
Wiltse (portrait-cap)


OK guys, show us your LENOX cards. Perchance, some one on this forum will post a new LENOX card which can be added to the checklist.


TED Z
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Old 04-16-2019, 10:08 AM
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Ted, not to interrupt the great posts full of info but wanted to announce that yesterday, with the arrival of Bill Burns, Scoops Carey (Brown Hindu), and Jake Stahl (no glove showing, and from a transaction here on Net54), I have hit 520 and climbed Monster Mountain. Thank you so much for all of the wisdom passed down in this threat and others. What a thrill!

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Old 04-16-2019, 03:49 PM
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I've owned many Lenox's over the years...here's my current example.
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Old 04-16-2019, 04:33 PM
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Thought I posted this before, but don't seem to find it in the thread.
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Old 04-16-2019, 07:11 PM
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Ted, not to interrupt the great posts full of info but wanted to announce that yesterday, with the arrival of Bill Burns, Scoops Carey (Brown Old Mill), and Jake Stahl (no glove showing, and from a transaction here on Net54), I have hit 520 and climbed Monster Mountain. Thank you so much for all of the wisdom passed down in this threat and others. What a thrill!
Hi Carl

Congratulations, you have tamed the Monster.

And, thanks for the kind words.


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Old 04-16-2019, 07:41 PM
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Hi Carl



Congratulations, you have tamed the Monster.



And, thanks for the kind words.





TED Z

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Of course, Ted. And thank you!

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