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Old 07-22-2020, 11:35 PM
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Which would you target? Why?
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Old 07-23-2020, 12:19 AM
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_________ Ty Cobb

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Joe Dimaggio Zeenut with Coupon (batting or throwing)
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The twist on this question is that the card to invest in is POST-WW2. Even if I had that kind of cash to flash, I would not invest in postwar, because I am not that familiar with it, and I could possibly get hosed.

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Old 07-23-2020, 04:55 AM
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I would diversify and buy 3 cards.
$10k in something iconic like a Magie (T206 have proven safe investment)
$5k in a Ruth Goudey(green or red)
$5k in a CJ Cobb(pr-gd)

Those would all sell if needed, highly desirable and fun to look at. Probably a better argument to buy one higher grade card, but not as fun.

If strictly post war - Mantle, Mays, Robinson.
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I think you should always start with some water front property: Goudey Ruth or Jackie Robinson rookie, which will fit either definition of whether post war is 1 or 2. I also think those are fairly safe cards to buy and pretty liquid.
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1953 Topps Jackie Robinson in as high a grade as is possible.
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Which would you target? Why?
Here are some solid options. Remember, great eye appeal is a “must” for any purchase:

- A dead-centered PSA 5 1951 Bowman Mantle Rookie - way undervalued vs. it’s 1952 Topps Mantle peer. Lots of growth potential. But, it has to have 55/45 to 50/50 centering.

- A PSA 5 #53 Yellow Goudey Ruth or PSA 6 #144 or #149 Goudey Ruth - these cards are exploding in value and I really don’t see any end in sight. Especially the ones with super aesthetics. Nice Goudey Ruth’s are “Money in the bank”

- A PSA 6 T206 Ty Cobb Red Portrait; Bat On or Bat Off. Again, must be well-centered with bright colors. A Beautiful PSA 5 Green Portrait Cobb works as well. T206 Cobbs continue to rise in price, especially the examples that present extremely well. Put one or two away & watch your money grow. One of the classic cards in the hobby

- A super eye pleasing PSA 5/6 1948 Jackie Robinson Leaf Rookie. It may be the hottest card in the hobby right now. If you can find one for $15Kish, use the remaining $5K to purchase a 1947 Bond Bread Jackie Robinson “Portrait” issue. It is Jackie’s “true” rookie card and was released in June/July 1947. - Jackie Robinson “rookie-era” card’s have no limits with regard to their investment potential. Jackie’s popularity is second to none and his early cards are on fire.

- a PSA 3 1914 Cracker Jack Cobb. In my opinion, one of the top 10 classic cards in the hobby. Cooled off somewhat with regard to pricing spikes, but it will certainly realize another pricing uptick in the next several years.

- a PSA 3 1948 Leaf Satchel Paige. One of the most desirable & significant cards in the hobby. A short-print that is so tough to find with great eye appeal. It MUST have superb resolution/registration & fine centering. Many examples have skewed images. Be patient & look for the right one.

- Early 1920s Babe Ruth Black & White issues. Try for a nice PSA 3 1921 E121 Ruth subject. It portrays Ruth in his classic pitching pose & wearing a Red Sox uniform (the image was actually taken in March 1915 so it is a true Ruth rookie image!). These black & white Ruth’s are still undervalued considering their rarity vs. Ruth goudeys. I firmly believe early 1920s Ruth Yankee cards will realize huge pricing spikes in the next 3-5 years.

- a very nice PSA 1.5/2 1909 E90-1 Joe Jackson rookie card. Simply stated, you cannot go wrong w/a “Shoeless Joe” rookie. It will continue to experience a steady rise in value.

Note, these are just a handful of examples to invest your $20K. Obviously there are so many more options, but the ones I suggested are bona-fife “sure things.” You also might want to consider buying some great modern cards like Jordan, James, MaHomes, Brady, Bryant, Trout, etc. since they are realizing some extraordinary price tags. If that is an option for you, speak with someone who is an authority on the high-end modern cards....it’s certainly not my area of expertise. With regard to vintage, blue chip immortals like Ruth, Cobb, Mantle, Robinson, Paige, Jackson, etc. are very safe investments. MOST IMPORTANT - please be very patient in finding exceptionally high-end eye appeal cards. That is the key for any issue. When you go to re-sell, you will definitely maximize your investment via aesthetically pleasing subjects. Great eye appeal translates to huge premiums paid for vintage cardboard. Good luck & happy hunting!
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I thought the question was POST WAR....
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1952 Topps Eddie Mathews, in as high a grade as 20K would get me.
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Which war?

If you're talking WWI, that rules out the t206. The obvious answer is the 1933 Goudey yellow Ruth in as nice a grade as you can find.

If you're talking WWII, I'm not sure $20k will get you an unaltered 1952 Mantle. Assuming that's off the table I'd go with the 1951 Bowman Mays, the 1952 Topps Robinson, or the 1954 Aaron. I don't think there's a clear winner (or loser) among those 3.

I'll throw a curveball here and include the 2011 Topps Update Trout. You could probably snag a nice cognac/diamond parallel. Technically it is post-war...
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Which war?

If you're talking WWI, that rules out the t206. The obvious answer is the 1933 Goudey yellow Ruth in as nice a grade as you can find.

If you're talking WWII, I'm not sure $20k will get you an unaltered 1952 Mantle. Assuming that's off the table I'd go with the 1951 Bowman Mays, the 1952 Topps Robinson, or the 1954 Aaron. I don't think there's a clear winner (or loser) among those 3.

I'll throw a curveball here and include the 2011 Topps Update Trout. You could probably snag a nice cognac/diamond parallel. Technically it is post-war...
So much risk in Trout's. He gets injured or experiences a late career like Pujols that cards takes a nosedive
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1952 Topps Eddie Mathews, in as high a grade as 20K would get me.
Same here.
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Old 07-23-2020, 09:22 AM
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1954 Topps Aaron, PSA 8 (may be closer to $25k)
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1952 Topps Eddie Mathews, in as high a grade as 20K would get me.
This is what I would buy.

Think we may need a primer on meaning of Post-War.
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This is what I would buy.

Think we may need a primer on meaning of Post-War.
Correct me If I'm wrong, I always thought Post-War referred to WWII. At least that's what I've been led to believe.
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I thought the question was POST WAR....
The way people are answering, I think it’s the Civil War.

If you mean post war in the traditional sense - WWII- than 48 leaf Paige or Jackie; 48 Bowman Musial; 51 Bowman mantle or Mays.

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I wouldn't spend 20K on one post war card. I don't think it would be satisfying. But the obvious answer has to be a 52 Mantle.

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[QUOTE=Rhotchkiss;2001854]The way people are answering, I think it’s the Civil War.

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I thought the question was POST WAR....
Uh, I guess you read the original post, huh.... didn't really specify "which" war...
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Uh, I guess you read the original post, huh.... didn't really specify "which" war...
Oh....War in Afghanistan? I'd go with a shiny Zion then.......oh wait 20K can't buy one! lol

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Here are some solid options. Remember, great eye appeal is a “must” for any purchase:

- A dead-centered PSA 5 1951 Bowman Mantle Rookie - way undervalued vs. it’s 1952 Topps Mantle peer. Lots of growth potential. But, it has to have 55/45 to 50/50 centering.

- A PSA 5 #53 Yellow Goudey Ruth or PSA 6 #144 or #149 Goudey Ruth - these cards are exploding in value and I really don’t see any end in sight. Especially the ones with super aesthetics. Nice Goudey Ruth’s are “Money in the bank”

- A PSA 6 T206 Ty Cobb Red Portrait; Bat On or Bat Off. Again, must be well-centered with bright colors. A Beautiful PSA 5 Green Portrait Cobb works as well. T206 Cobbs continue to rise in price, especially the examples that present extremely well. Put one or two away & watch your money grow. One of the classic cards in the hobby

- A super eye pleasing PSA 5/6 1948 Jackie Robinson Leaf Rookie. It may be the hottest card in the hobby right now. If you can find one for $15Kish, use the remaining $5K to purchase a 1947 Bond Bread Jackie Robinson “Portrait” issue. It is Jackie’s “true” rookie card and was released in June/July 1947. - Jackie Robinson “rookie-era” card’s have no limits with regard to their investment potential. Jackie’s popularity is second to none and his early cards are on fire.

- a PSA 3 1914 Cracker Jack Cobb. In my opinion, one of the top 10 classic cards in the hobby. Cooled off somewhat with regard to pricing spikes, but it will certainly realize another pricing uptick in the next several years.

- a PSA 3 1948 Leaf Satchel Paige. One of the most desirable & significant cards in the hobby. A short-print that is so tough to find with great eye appeal. It MUST have superb resolution/registration & fine centering. Many examples have skewed images. Be patient & look for the right one.

- Early 1920s Babe Ruth Black & White issues. Try for a nice PSA 3 1921 E121 Ruth subject. It portrays Ruth in his classic pitching pose & wearing a Red Sox uniform (the image was actually taken in March 1915 so it is a true Ruth rookie image!). These black & white Ruth’s are still undervalued considering their rarity vs. Ruth goudeys. I firmly believe early 1920s Ruth Yankee cards will realize huge pricing spikes in the next 3-5 years.

- a very nice PSA 1.5/2 1909 E90-1 Joe Jackson rookie card. Simply stated, you cannot go wrong w/a “Shoeless Joe” rookie. It will continue to experience a steady rise in value.

Note, these are just a handful of examples to invest your $20K. Obviously there are so many more options, but the ones I suggested are bona-fife “sure things.” You also might want to consider buying some great modern cards like Jordan, James, MaHomes, Brady, Bryant, Trout, etc. since they are realizing some extraordinary price tags. If that is an option for you, speak with someone who is an authority on the high-end modern cards....it’s certainly not my area of expertise. With regard to vintage, blue chip immortals like Ruth, Cobb, Mantle, Robinson, Paige, Jackson, etc. are very safe investments. MOST IMPORTANT - please be very patient in finding exceptionally high-end eye appeal cards. That is the key for any issue. When you go to re-sell, you will definitely maximize your investment via aesthetically pleasing subjects. Great eye appeal translates to huge premiums paid for vintage cardboard. Good luck & happy hunting!
A eye appealing PSA 5 48/49 leaf jackie is far more than 20k now. An ugly PSA 4 just went for nearly 16k at Goldin.
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It wouldn't be baseball. I'd buy the highest graded 1980-81 Bird/Magic rookie I could find.

Strictly baseball, high grade late 60's Mantle.
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Buy a '54 Topps Aaron in PSA 8. You may have to borrow four or five grand but it'll be worth it.
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Great thread! I hope pricing trends stay positive this time next year....
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Was going to say a 1948 Bowman Satchell Paige PSA 9 - but $20.k won't get it. So perhaps the best 1952 Topps Willie Mays or Jackie Robinson you can get. Or super high end 1948 Leaf Ted Williams.
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[QUOTE=Vintageclout;2001831]Here are some solid options. Remember, great eye appeal is a “must” for any purchase:

- A dead-centered PSA 5 1951 Bowman Mantle Rookie - way undervalued vs. it’s 1952 Topps Mantle peer. Lots of growth potential. But, it has to have 55/45 to 50/50 centering.


I value your opinion, what do you think of this stained but very nice looking Mantle RC at around 8k on Ebay?

Just curious, I was contemplating it but the stains.......let me know what you think about future value on this one, thanks! Peace, Mike

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52 Topps Mantle.

Honorable Mention to 51 Bowman Mantle and 48 Leaf Robinson.


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Honorable Mention to 51 Bowman Mantle and 48 Leaf Robinson.


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I agree with a nice 52 Topps Mantle Grade 2-3
Also 54 Aaron rookie
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Ton if good suggestions here... i’d toss a solid centered 1939 playball ted williams into the mix.
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Highest graded 1953 Topps Mantle I could find.. Any money left over I'd buy a nice '86 Fleer Jordan..
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Mantle, Clemente or Jackie Robinson. Those are the top 3 postwar players. 1953 Topps Mantle (the 51 B and 52 T are too expensive and you would have to buy a lower grade card), 1955 Topps Roberto Clemente Rookie Card or 1949 Bowman Jackie Robinson Rookie Card(a couple months ago the 1949 Leaf would be the pick but it has taken a huge jump and now you would have to buy a lower grade example).
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