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Question for the board re: t201's
Posted By: Mike Taylor
Someone has offered to sell me some T201 Mecca double folders. I need to know if this particular issue has ever been done as a reprint set and if so, how do you tell the real from the fake/reprint? |
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Question for the board re: t201's
Posted By: MW
Can you post an image of the card? |
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Question for the board re: t201's
Posted By: Jason Duncan
I have a set. The reprints are on paper like material and are duller images. Be careful. If you posted a scan we could help. |
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Question for the board re: t201's
Posted By: Mike Taylor
Unfortunatly, I don't have a scan to post. The story behind this offer is that one of my informal network of friends who don't collect cards but look out for cards for me found out about them from a friend of his. Based on the description I got from my friend, I concluded that they were T201s and that they were in at least mid-grade condition. There are about a half dozen cards including a Falkenburg/Lajoie and the asking price is $150 for the lot. I'll be able to see the cards over the holidays and I'm looking for specific things to look for when I examine the cards. |
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Question for the board re: t201's
Posted By: hankron
Under strong magnification, the player images on the reprints will be made up of a fine multi-color dot pattern just like modern trading cards. |
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Question for the board re: t201's
Posted By: jay behrens
some clues to look for on real cards, almost all cards appear to have a "v" cut on the left and right edges. It seems the card were cut when they were folded over. Truely straight t201 is fairly uncommon. The few reprints I've seen, the paper stock is too white on the back. Legit cards should not have any gloss at all. It's been 15 years since I've had one in my hands, so that's the best I can do from memory, but I did put 3 sets together. |
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Question for the board re: t201's
Posted By: Anonymous
Hankron: I have a 4X loupe. Is that strong enough to look at the print patterns or do I need something stronger? |
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Question for the board re: t201's
Posted By: hankron
I don't have a 4x loupe, so I don't know what you can see with it. In general, I recommend collectors getting a pocket microscope of 50x to 100x powers. Little hand held versions can be bought for cheap on eBay. However, to see the dot pattern you wouldn't need nearly that strength. |
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Question for the board re: t201's
Posted By: hankron
Take a microscope or strong glass and look at the player image of any Pre-WWI trading card. If the player image is made of up a tiny multi-color dot pattern just like on a 1980s Topps or color magazine picture it's a reprint or counterfeit. This is whether the card is an Allen & Ginter, T206, T3 Turkey Red, Old Judge or T200 Fatima. |
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Question for the board re: t201's
Posted By: martindl
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Question for the board re: t201's
Posted By: Mike Taylor
I finally got a chance to look at the cards in person and decided not to buy them. As far as I could tell, the condition of the cards was nice and the dot pattern looked good when I viewed them under my loupe. However, none of the cards had the v-cut on them. Although I realize that they do sometimes come without the v-cut, I don't know enough to make a determination of authenticity and thus said no to the deal. |
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Question for the board re: t201's
Posted By: Rob L
The only reprints of T201's that I know of were included in the book with a forward by Burt Sugar. Those are all on heavy cardboard type paper and are glossy. Has anyone ever seen a counterfeit or early reprint of these? |
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Question for the board re: t201's
Posted By: jay behrens
Lee has a reprint of a t201 that I've seen, so they are out there. Having owned 3 sets of these cards, it was very easy to see this was a reprint right away. |
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Question for the board re: t201's
Posted By: john/z28jd
A friend of mine bought a Walter Johnson reprint off ebay and had it for over a year before i had the unenviable task of telling him it was a fake.It looked enough like an old card to fool an inexperienced collector but not enough to fool someone who collects them. |
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