1933 Goudey Gum Co. Baseball

[Leon]

We need a card thread!! Let's see some 1933 Goudeys...

Here is my only one but I wouldn't mind picking up a few more. (Ruth's or not.)

[Touch'EmAll]

Great looking Ruth! That's how you roll, very nice for the grade.

[BabyRuth]

Let's round out the Ruths and throw in a Lajoie on the side and some Gehrigs for dessert!!

[Exhibitman]

The bio on the 2nd Hubbell indicates that the card was issued after the 1933 World Series.

Much of the same info is on the 1934

[Mjpadilla84]

Great goudey’s ! Here’s my Ruth

[DeanH3]

Nice stuff guys. Tough act to follow.

Edited to add: Very timey post Leon. I just happen to have these two guys out and looking at them.

[brianp-beme]

The 1933 Goudey set has quite a few notch or ten down from the pinnacle of baseball stardom and glory that I really like. Here is one that just sings to me.

Brian (not mine, but it might as well be mine)

[GeoPoto]

My pre-war collection is supposed to be limited to players in Washington uniforms. But this fringe big leaguer elbowed his way in. He served as a ball boy for the Washington Senators before playing eight seasons in MLB, mostly with the St. Louis Browns. He was born in Washington and 30 years later was struck and killed by a streetcar in Washington. He played for the Browns for seven seasons, including the start of the 1933 season. Nevertheless, he is shown here playing for the Albany -- wait for it -- Senators.

https://www.net54baseball.com/attach...1&d=1673691252
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[BuzzD]

Mr. Lazzeri

[cubman1941]

Here's Ki-Ki -

[mrreality68]

Originally Posted by BabyRuth

Let's round out the Ruths and throw in a Lajoie!!

Very nice Ruth’s. I will be going after those types in a few years

[drapala]

My two terrible Hack Wilsons

[rats60]

Here are some Pirates

[GeoPoto]

Casey or Leo or somebody supposedly said something like: "Moe was fluent in eight languages, but he couldn't hit in any of 'em."

When his White Sox manager ran out of catchers and asked the team if anyone could catch, Moe (then a young infielder) said "I used to think so." The manager, Ray Schalk said: "Who told you you couldn't?" Moe's answer: "My high school coach." Schalk said: "Prove him wrong!". Moe caught for 13 seasons in MLB.

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[JohnP0621]

My Only One.
Regards
John P

[jingram058]

Since I can't get to my Goudey cards just now, I found this on line and thought it appropriate for a 1933 Goudey thread.

[brob28]

This display hangs behind the desk in my home office. I'm now down to three Ruth's to complete my Goudey HOF subset.

[rjackson44]

Terrific bill i own like 5 hofers will never sell love the artwork

[JimmyC]

I've never owned any '33 Goudeys.....Have owned different pre war cards over the years.....If I ever go back and collect this era, the '33s would be the first set / cards to tackle.....beautiful cards....and beautiful pics you guy have posted!

[t206fanatic]

Have posted it before, but I think the best looking card in the set

[brianp-beme]

Another Goudey gem.

Brian

[CardPadre]

Originally Posted by BabyRuth

Let's round out the Ruths and throw in a Lajoie on the side and some Gehrigs for dessert!!

That Lajoie is great, are those scrapes along the front? They look too crisp and straight to be folds. Looks like someone raked it, very cool.

[jbl79]

Ruth and Foxx

[G1911]

A common, but this was my first R card of any kind. General Crowder was a star when the card was issued, leading the AL in wins in 1932 and 1933 as a workhorse. He got his nickname after General Enoch Crowder, and his own military service in the Philippines and Siberia. Most sources say he learned to play ball in the army, an awfully late in life start for a guy who made the majors.

[RCMcKenzie]

Wright had an unassisted triple play.

[FrankWakefield]

Greg... First R card??? The first R card I ever got was probably a 1964 Topps.


Here are a couple of Goudeys, some folks think they'd grade with a crooked number.

https://www.net54baseball.com/attach...1&d=1673758022


https://www.net54baseball.com/attach...1&d=1673758022

[G1911]

Originally Posted by FrankWakefield

Greg... First R card??? The first R card I ever got was probably a 1964 Topps.


Here are a couple of Goudeys, some folks think they'd grade with a crooked number.

https://www.net54baseball.com/attach...1&d=1673758022


https://www.net54baseball.com/attach...1&d=1673758022

I might be technically wrong because I don’t know when the Topps cards stopped getting R numbers. I may have had some 80’s Topps cards before this Goudey, but this Goudey I got before I got any 50’s through 70’s Topps cards. I was really young, mostly collecting current football (late 90’s) at the time when I saw it and thought it was really cool because it was a painting, the baggy uniform. I couldn’t have been older than maybe 7 or 8.

[brianp-beme]

When I think of squatty catchers, I think of this 1933 Goudey of Virgil 'Spud' Davis. A great depiction, but also unusual in that his catcher's mask, in my opinion, makes his face look like that of a monkey.

Brian (not my monkey card)

[lowpopper]

gowdeez gum

[GeoPoto]

There is little that is remarkable regarding Bobby Burke's 9-season career with Washington. His 38-46 record and 4.29 ERA well-summarize his mediocre performance across 918 innings pitched. When the Senators won the pennant in 1933, Bobby did not pitch in the World Series.

But, as his card explains, there is this: In 1931, Bobby Burke no-hit the Bosox at Griffith Stadium, making him the only Washington pitcher to pitch a no-hitter at the park they played in for 50 years. It would be 83 years (34 of which included no attempts) before another Washington pitcher would throw a no-hitter.

https://www.net54baseball.com/attach...1&d=1673788247
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[LuckyLarry]

After several years chasing this set it appears I will fall short. I still remember 4 or 5 years ago at the National, handing J.D. Heckathorn $1,100 for a raw Babe Ruth #144. Me spending $1,100 for a piece of cardboard? (now slabbed SGC 1 Poor). A couple years later, I retold JD how nervous I was forking out that kind of cash for a card, and he graciously offered to refund my purchase lol. I need the other three Ruth cards, both Gehrig cards, and then two other cards which i should be able to afford #89 Tris Speaker and #223 Dizzy Dean. Might be time to purchase a few reprints and call it done.
(cards are stored raw in TCVERIFY.com mylar sleeves)
Larry

[BabyRuth]

Originally Posted by CardPadre

That Lajoie is great, are those scrapes along the front? They look too crisp and straight to be folds. Looks like someone raked it, very cool.

The Lajoie has some minor paper loss along the fold lines, and looks like it was folded extremely tightly when you have it in hand.

Jim(BabyRuth)

[conor912]

How about a crate to store all this awesomeness!!

[refz]

Pair of mine

[brianp-beme]

Just to show a range of artistic ability on display. Not all the artwork is excellent, which is like some other larger vintage sets (T206 is a good example). Personally for me the cards with the heavier outlining on body and especially the head are usually less appealing.

Brian

[tedzan]

Tths set comprises of ten 24-card sheets. The 10th sheet is very interesting, it was printed after the 1933 World Series, and includes players from Washington
and the N.Y. Giants. What is more interesting is that 15 cards are numbered with lower numbers that were omitted in the earlier issues.
These cards were issued Circa November 1933.

From my set, I have arranged these cards to exactly simulate this 24-card sheet..........








This diagram of the 10th sheet tells the story when the remaining 15 (of the 16) mysterious lower numbered cards where finally issued.






TED Z

T206 Reference
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[Exhibitman]

You know you've been collecting a long time when you have 1933 Goudeys that you got signed yourself...

[cgjackson222]

Originally Posted by t206fanatic

Have posted it before, but I think the best looking card in the set

I agree about the Goslin, and yours is amazing

[FrankWakefield]

Ted,

THANK YOU for that sheet #10 information, about Washington and the Giants. I don't have all of those cards, but I do have several of them. I hope to dig them out read the backs, to see if they reference any information that couldn't have been known before the season started.

Has this been common knowledge and I've had my head in the sand? This is the first I've heard of it. You're a walking encyclopedia!

[Big Ben]

I don’t post on here much, but the Goudey cards are my favorite to collect. Here’s is something I picked up on the BST a few years ago.

[GeoPoto]

The back of Cronin's #109 contains results from the 1933 season, including the World Series. I think #63 is a great image!

https://www.net54baseball.com/attach...1&d=1673881446
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[Bill77]

Just a few of mine, ok most of mine.

[Seven]

Seeing all these Goudey's makes me want to pick up a few from the 1933 set. Some beautiful cards, gentlemen!

[Yoda]

Originally Posted by brob28

This display hangs behind the desk in my home office. I'm now down to three Ruth's to complete my Goudey HOF subset.

Bill, your Dean is a blazer. Color me jealous.

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by FrankWakefield

Ted,

THANK YOU for that sheet #10 information, about Washington and the Giants. I don't have all of those cards, but I do have several of them. I hope to dig them out read the backs, to see if they reference any information that couldn't have been known before the season started.

Has this been common knowledge and I've had my head in the sand? This is the first I've heard of it. You're a walking encyclopedia!

Hi Frank

I really appreciate your kind words.


Now, here is real 24-card GOUDEY sheet. But, with only 23 subjects. The #144 Babe Ruth card is double-printed on it.






TED Z

T206 Reference
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[cgjackson222]

1933 Goudey has so many cards of great Players.

Set has 240 cards, and I think 64 of those are of Hall of Famers including the duplicate images of Foxx and Gehrig and the multiple images of Ruth, Manush, Cronin and others.

There are 49 different Hall of Famers in total I believe, including the retired Lajoie, Collins and Speaker, which is way more than the T206 set has.

One thing I have wondered is why the World Wide Gum issue, which is rarer than they Goudy does not sell for as much.

[trdcrdkid]

Originally Posted by FrankWakefield

Ted,

THANK YOU for that sheet #10 information, about Washington and the Giants. I don't have all of those cards, but I do have several of them. I hope to dig them out read the backs, to see if they reference any information that couldn't have been known before the season started.

Has this been common knowledge and I've had my head in the sand? This is the first I've heard of it. You're a walking encyclopedia!

It's been known in the hobby since the 1970s, after some uncut sheets were found and people figured out the order in which the cards were issued. It helped that there were still people in the organized hobby who remembered collecting 1933 Goudey as kids.

Here is a very thorough explanation by Jason Schwarts of the 10 sheets in the set:

https://sabrbaseballcards.blog/2020/...udey-part-one/

Here are Elwood Scharf's memories of collecting 1933 Goudey as a kid, from the November 1970 Ballcard Collector:

https://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=219310

[tedzan]

Hey Guys

Shown here is my real life connection with this Goudey set.

Frank O'Rourke coached our High School BB team (Elizabeth, NJ) during the 1950's.

I was a Right-Fielder (or Left-Fielder) because I had a great glove and had a very strong and accurate throwing arm.
My hitting, at best, was intermittent.


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TED Z

T206 Reference
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[FrankWakefield]

Thank you, David. Seems like I should have seen that SABR article before now. My favorite sentence was his "The already knew what I did not."

And the sheet 10 cards do have an update in information on the back.

Ted, as to your connection... "intermittent at best," surely that's an understatement.

[Seven]

Originally Posted by tedzan

Hey Guys

Shown here is my real life connection with this Goudey set.

Frank O'Rourke coached our High School BB team (Elizabeth, NJ) during the 1950's.

I was a Right-Fielder (or Left-Fielder) because I had a great glove and had a very strong and accurate throwing arm.
My hitting, at best, was intermittent.


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TED Z

T206 Reference
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Ted,

I think you're doing yourself a disservice. I'm sure the Yankees could've used you last season, as I'm sure you would've been better than Aaron Hicks!