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Old 02-28-2023, 08:33 PM
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Default Anyone ever see this kind of Sweet Caporal Factory 42 OP Oddity?

Hi there all, new to the forum but I've come across it many times since starting to collect T206. I'm in a lot of the Facebook groups too, so I've probably seen some of you around there.

I have a Sweet Caporal Factory 42OP card that has some oddities I just noticed last night and was curious if anyone has seen anything else like this? I put all of the images in an album here: https://imgur.com/a/0Ic0U5L

I took a closer look under my magnifier on a spot on my card and it looks like a scrap piece of print of something else from the factory stuck to the wet ink, someone on Facebook suggested a piece of a tax stamp and that seems the most plausible. I originally thought of a Sovereign since it's green, but the pattern doesn't match any part of it or American Beauty.

I took it out of the sleeve and felt it, it does appear to be stuck to it and not just sitting on it. Another weird thing about this card is I noticed the overprint pattern is unlike any other I've seen, so I put my magnifier over that too. It looks like someone hand painted over the Factory number when they missed the strike. I also attached another 42OP card of mine to show the difference of what the normal pattern looks like. The last "interesting" thing about this card is the red leaf in the top right didn't fully print, haven't noticed this on other Sweet Caporal cards before (but I've haven't looked too hard at others). Curious if anyone else had insight on these oddities or have ever come across these before?
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Old 02-28-2023, 08:57 PM
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The red ink printed on the card below the piece of paper makes me think it's just a piece of paper that got stuck to the card at some point. But the red ink on the little piece looks like a matc. If so I really have no idea how the ink on the card was printed fully, then that paper got stuck to it and it also got the red ink printed on it. Very interesting.
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The extra piece of paper is intriguing for the reasons that Luke mentioned the extra ink on the overprint scroll is a common variance. There are also numerous Sweet Caporals that have different parts of the leaves that didn't fully print.

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Old 03-01-2023, 07:32 PM
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The extra piece of paper is intriguing for the reasons that Luke mentioned the extra ink on the overprint scroll is a common variance. There are also numerous Sweet Caporals that have different parts of the leaves that didn't fully print.

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Ah nice, good to know about the overprint scroll variances. I can imagine a real stickler of a boss at the factory that day...
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Old 03-02-2023, 02:51 PM
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I think it was done on purpose well after it was printed. But I most could be wrong as my wife always believes I am.

At first I thought yes a speck of paper was there when it was printed. Then take a look at the first picture to the left where it looks like the IN in the greenish paper. The red there is not printed over the paper but under. Whereas other parts looks like the red is printed over the extra paper.

Then it looks like the red ink on the card does not match the red ink color on the extra paper.

So my very inexperienced eyes says it was created well after it was originally printed.

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Old 03-06-2023, 04:45 PM
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I agree on the tax stamp. Not sure on the other back over-stamp, but done after the fact seems plausible, as mentioned. It could've been done at the same time of printing too. Not sure. Cool card though..
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Hi there all, new to the forum but I've come across it many times since starting to collect T206. I'm in a lot of the Facebook groups too, so I've probably seen some of you around there.

I have a Sweet Caporal Factory 42OP card that has some oddities I just noticed last night and was curious if anyone has seen anything else like this? I put all of the images in an album here: https://imgur.com/a/0Ic0U5L

I took a closer look under my magnifier on a spot on my card and it looks like a scrap piece of print of something else from the factory stuck to the wet ink, someone on Facebook suggested a piece of a tax stamp and that seems the most plausible. I originally thought of a Sovereign since it's green, but the pattern doesn't match any part of it or American Beauty.

I took it out of the sleeve and felt it, it does appear to be stuck to it and not just sitting on it. Another weird thing about this card is I noticed the overprint pattern is unlike any other I've seen, so I put my magnifier over that too. It looks like someone hand painted over the Factory number when they missed the strike. I also attached another 42OP card of mine to show the difference of what the normal pattern looks like. The last "interesting" thing about this card is the red leaf in the top right didn't fully print, haven't noticed this on other Sweet Caporal cards before (but I've haven't looked too hard at others). Curious if anyone else had insight on these oddities or have ever come across these before?
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I have seen this before and is rare,

Over prints are just stamps over from another fac. when shipped - so it was tagged or stamped for a reason. Really not sure why they did it this way, as it stamps out the original fac. number.

The back top right is an extra piece of paper or tax stamp and just like old civil war photos stamps sometimes ended up on the back, they must have used the same machines or something. This was a factory error or stuck onto the cardboard.

and have seen other cards with extra stamp pieces. Unlike the civil war photo issues that is common to see on the back as a "full US stamp" never see a full tax stamp on T206 cards only some pieces which makes me think it was a mistake or just bad luck in the machine.

No surprised it was with an overprint card, and only have seen it with them - dig more if you can!

Thanks for sharing and you have a cool card!


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