info on e90-1 proof cards

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Posted By: jason

does anyone have any e90-1 proof cards? if you do can you post a scan of them if not can you tell me what they would look like. please let me know and if so what are these cards worth? thanks

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Posted By: fkw

Why would you think it is a proof? Does the card have a blank back? Or does it have printers cross hash marks on the edges?

I have a blank back card that some might call a E90-1 proof, but some of the players in E90-1 have the same fronts as E92, E101, E102 etc. so its impossible to pinpoint the exact set.


SGC could have chose to slab this as a E90-1 or E101 Proof too. I wish they would have said it was a E90-1 since the McLean in that set is a tough one

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Posted By: scott fandango

i think SGC got it right, that is not an E90-1 you can see by the borders... the e90-1 have a bigger lower border and this would be a trimmed e90-1 if it were that....

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Posted By: jason

the card has faded crosses on the top and one side. i don't know what to look for i saw these faded crosses on the card and the other e90-1 i have do not.

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Posted By: Anonymous

i've never seen this on a pre ww1 card befor it has the cross hashes on one side and the top they look like faded crosses if anyone knows any thing about this please let me know. and does the proofs have any more market value?

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Posted By: Jim VB

Jason,

You've asked the question, a couple of times, in a couple of different ways. I bet you'd get some response if you posted a scan.

Edited to add - If you email me a scan, I will attempt to post it for you.

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Posted By: Tony Andrea

Hi Jason,
Maybe this will help. I just picked this up as an upgrade for my set. It to has the marks you are speaking of. E90-1's are commonly found with these marks and many of the cards in my set have them. Some marks show up better than others while most are light in contrast. They are not proofs simply printers marks. They do not add any value to the card. Honestly, I don't think proof's exist from this set.

Regards,Tony A.

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Posted By: quan

wrong thread

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Posted By: Scott Fandango

very nice card!

it seems most of these cards with crosshairs are also diamond cuts...

i wonder if it was their first run, and they corrected things (diamond cutting and printer marks) for the next series....

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Posted By: jason

thats what the card looks like thanks for the info on the card and thats what my card looks like but a different side thanks. if anyone can help me find low grade e90-1 for my set let me know prefer ungraded and if graded lower grades thanks jason

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Posted By: Bob

I always thought that the E90-1 set (like the E94 set) had never had a proof card surface and that, like the McLean shown above, they were blank backed E92s.

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Posted By: Matt

From the current H&S Auction:
"Presented is a possibly unique 1909-1911 E90-1 American Caramel Cy Young (Boston) proof, graded 40 VG by SGC. With the presence of period printer’s guidelines, the attractive portrait of this upper-echelon Hall of Famer offers the advanced collector a seldom-encountered opportunity."

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Posted By: barrysloate

I think that E90-1 Young shows up with those printer's marks with some frequency.

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Posted By: Denny Walsh

Barry's Right,
Cy's Card was recently in a PSA 5 Holder.

Life's Grand,
Denny Walsh

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Posted By: peter ullman

I agree that numerous e90-1 cards can be found with printers hatch marks...there should not be a premium attached to this...nor should it be suggested these are proof cards.

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Posted By: Pennsylvania Ted

The two cards shown here (Thomas and Young) are NOT "proof" cards.

They are simply cards that were positioned on the top or the bottom rows of their sheets, where these printer's sheet
cutting markings are situated. These markings can be found on all types of BB cards (pre-War and post-War).