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Old 07-09-2021, 11:46 PM
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Very good that photo of Chocolate, although I have had two, it is difficult and rare, now I am sending you a photo of a Kid Chocolate match card, I think you should have it, maybe you have a complete album of Romeo and Juliet, I had it At the beginning of the 90s, I had more than 300 boxing cards from 15 different manufacturers since at that time I collected boxing cards and I am sure that some of them are part of your collection.
I have two versions of the matchbox side cards:




I would have liked to see your boxing collection. With as few cards as there are, I probably have some of your former cards. I currently count about 15-17 types of Cuban boxing cards; depends on whether you count postcards and cards that have boxers that are from general issue subjects like Susini or this one:


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Kenny you always show top cards. The Billiken collection is rare, but the rarest are those of the Matanzas and Piratas teams, as you have my catalog, you have seen the explanation I give of this collection and the rarest of all are the 8 x 10 inches, I think it is printed Dihigo's rokie with the Pirates, now a scaler of some cards.
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Old 07-11-2021, 11:24 AM
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Now you will see a photo of Kid Chocolate that the written comment says: Gloria Times Broway The Music Center Manhattan etc. and another about the fight with Fillo Echevarria, he received so many blows that Fillo spent a month in the hospital, the Royal cigar card, # 10 he did not know, but I have the 2 complete albums and later I will look for them to se her.
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A few days ago I showed you some Billiken cards of professional league players, now I show you some of the Pirates and Matanzas teams that I scanned at my house many years ago, shortly after they went to a collector in the United States, I think that currently they may be in the collections of any member of net54
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Some cards Billiken, Matanzas and Piratas
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I was reviewing in the Royal Cigars album the card # 10 that you show with the boxer when arriving in Havana and I find that that number corresponds to another, it is something that is strange since that album is from the revolutionary events of 1933, I I have the two complete albums with 400 cards, and look in case the boxer appeared with another number and nothing, I send you photos of card # 10 and the cover.
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Is it possibly from another Royal series with different numbers?
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The Royal Cigars collection, as advertised consists of 3 albums, I have 2 complete, but I have never seen the 3, the first number the cards from 1 to 200 and the second from 201 to 400, both in the album and in The reverse of the cards reads about the revolutionary events of 1933, that is why the boxer's card has nothing to do with the series, but from what you show in front and behind it is a valid card, I have some repeated album And some cards when I find them I will look to see if I find any data, now how do I know that you are an expert in boxing? I will ask you some questions, do you have any boxers card from Gener Cigars? which Cuban boxers belong to the Hall of Fame? Have you seen any picture of Chocolate as a boy boxing? I send you a photo of part of a sheet from the La Estrella album El Kid chocolate collection.
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I know of but do not have any Gener cards. The only one I saw offered for sale was a Jack Dempsey a few years ago.
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Gener Cigar cards are all a rarity, you'll see Jack Dempsey
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That's the one.
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Now I show you a picture of Chocolate as a child, maybe you haven't seen it.
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Looking on the computer for some images, I found these Trinidad y Hno boxing cigars, I photographed them years ago when I collected them, perhaps today they are in your collection since you have very good cards, they measure 8 x 10 inches.
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Those are great. Uzcudun I'd seen before in a small format card but not that size. It is about 10 cm x 13 cm. Here is a picture:



The only other card I've seen in that size is Tunney:




The Kid I had not seen before. Those premiums are just so rare. The others I know of are Sharkey, Dempsey Sharkey-Risko and Loughran. Plus this guy I was not able to identify:



Maybe Arguelles?
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Now you have an ad for a show where Kid Gavilan appears,
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Now I show a photo that I edit, where among some are seen Martin Dihigo, Alejandro Oms, Acostica, Julio Rojo etc, it was a banquet at the culmination of a championship, in the original photo players from all the teams appear.
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Ahh Kid Gavilan. Here's one you might like:



It is an oversized photographic premium of the Kid issued by a company that made fitness instruction courses for children. From the mid-1950s. It was too big for my scanner.
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I had never seen that photo of Kid Gavilan, now I show you a large propaganda poster of Flour Goldrim, above it has a hook to hang it, I photographed it because I couldn't scan it either.
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I received an email in which they asked me about the Cuban House of David team, that was about 20 days ago, I do not remember in which of my emails and I decided to answer it through the threads, perhaps this will be one of my last messages, since I think that what I am publishing is not of interest because they do not ask me questions either for or against, I have published images in some unique cases, I do not know those who see the threads, at first they asked me and I always gave them an answer, a few ago days I thought to close, but Leon sent me a message of encouragement which he thanked him a lot and continued to publish, now you will see some images of the team in a panoramic photo but I edited it because it was too long and you will see part of the photo and some close-up images.
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B. 7999, I thought you no longer saw my threads, the last thing you wrote to me was on May 14 and I replied that day, then on May 20 I wrote you again and I sent you a photo of what you asked me for and I wrote you saying that when you saw you let me know, more than 2 months have passed, and yet I have seen your messages in other threads, I always try to help those who ask me, sometimes they ask me about the thread and others to my emails In my threads, I have met people who I consider interested in Cuban baseball, and I try to help all of them, I believe that some have learned something with my writings, but I have also learned something with you, and I consider all those who see my Wonderful people threads, although I do not know those who see it, only those who send a message. In the message you sent me in Spanish you tell me "don't stop, go on" and I will tell you that with the greatest of my wishes I will continue to do so, but I have tried to keep putting things that I consider important and sometimes unique and unknown things and nobody says anything , neither for nor against and I think that what I am publishing does not interest any of you, with all the complications that I have, I always look for a time to look for something of interest to you, and you do not say anything, and for me it would be a I encourage you to write something or ask me, if you read this message you let me know, greetings.
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I had never seen that photo of Kid Gavilan, now I show you a large propaganda poster of Flour Goldrim, above it has a hook to hang it, I photographed it because I couldn't scan it either.
Propaganda= advertising?

Here is one of the rarest Gavilan cards:





It is one of the notorious high # cards.

FWIW, the only full run of Hocus Focus boxing cards I've ever seen. I really wish I'd had PSA realign the Gavilan when that was easily accomplished...Now it would be a year to get it back.
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I did not know those Kid Gavilan cards, I think they are very rare, I will look for something more of him, now I show you another propaganda poster of Flour Goldrim, this one is by Orestes Mińoso with the same characteristics as the previous one, yes I did not know those Kid Gavilan cards, I think they are very rare, I will look for something more of him, now I show you another propaganda poster of Flour Goldrim, this one is by Orestes Mińoso with the same characteristics as the previous one, yes, propaganda = advertising
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Now they asked me by email if Lloyd played at Club Almendares and I show you this photo at Almendares Park.
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Jason, a while ago you asked about the Oms brothers and I published a photo of the three of them, yesterday I found a photo in a magazine of the former members of the Tosca team, which was the name it had before it was called Santa Clara, in In the photo you can see some of those who were alive at that time, in the late 50s, you can see the brothers Tito and Eleuterio Oms, Inocencio Perez and others, when you see it, let me know. regards
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I love that photo. The Oms were sure a unique looking family
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Jason in the photo that I sent you with the Oms brothers, there was also Pedro Oms, who was Tosca's utility, and Alejandro Oms's nephew, now you will see a print that announced the death of Tito Oms in 1970.
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Do you know any photos of Jackie Robinson, Joe Louis and Orestes Mińoso sharing together at a night club?
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Now you will see the cover of a magazine "Fotos" it was a massive act when Kid Gavilan won the World Championship, next to it is Chocolate, the sash he is wearing was a gift from the Bohemia Magazine, the act was held at the Cerro Stadium,
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Fotos made that great Gavilan card.



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In 1910 when Detroit visited Havana, I showed a photo of Ty Cobb at bat and Almendares catcher Gervasio González and Gervasio's "Punch" card.
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Now you will see part of a photo of the Almendares team but that you edit so that you can see Jose Méndez and his inseparable catcher Gervasio González and a photo of Gervasio already old doing a demonstration on homeplay
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Many of the famous baseball players who visited Havana went to the "Sloppy Joe" his name is due to one of the greats of the Hall of Fame who named his owner, and he decided to call him that, now I show you a photo that he edits where we see Ted Williams sitting at the bar counter
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Now I show a Champion Magazine where the Florentino boxer appears, I saw him boxing on television in fights that were broadcast live at that time
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Now I show a photo that I edit of the Santa Clara 1938-39 showing Salazar, Taylor and Raymond Brown.
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Here are three premiums I have of Florentino "The Ox" Fernandez from 3 Toneles rum:



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From the American Series at La Tropical Stadium, New York and Dodgers players are shown,
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Hi Rolando, this is all great information you are sharing, thank you so much!

I have recently acquired a Martin Dihigo card and I was hoping you might be able to provide some information about it. The back of the card commemorates "50 years serving the national sport". Since he started his career in 1922, does this date the card to 1972? It looks older but maybe just a different type of paper was used? It was purchased from a seller in Mexico.
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If you got it from Barbacoa215 you got ripped off. That seller is a crook; been selling prints of the same cards for years. I got burned earlier this year.
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Ray, the Dihigo card that you show is the first time I see it, I assure you that it is not Cuban, maybe it is Mexican, and since it is numbered it can be from a series of different sports for the 50 years, what I can tell you is that Dihigo played for the first time in Mexico in 1937, that same year he launched the 1st game of 0 hit 0 runs in the history of baseball in that country, he was a player and manager, he belongs to the hall of fame of Mexico, now if that postcard is false or a copy I do not know, I do not have it in my hands, there is a note from Exibitman, which gives you a message, you must read it, any questions you have for me, do not be sorry and ask that I am willing to help you, thanks for the note you make about what I show, greetings.
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Ray, now I had time and I saw Dihigo's postcard again and my analysis tells me the following, on the back it says: 50 years in the service of National Sports, that does not refer to Dihigo, it refers to perhaps 50 years of a station radio or television, it can also be a magazine or a newspaper that published a collection to commemorate the anniversary, Martin's postcard has # 27, perhaps more players and athletes in general that were mentioned during those 50 years are in the series, For example, in Cuba there are currently 2 radio stations that transmit all national and international sports, and in their advertisements they mention the years they have been informing radio listeners, one has been for 60 years and the other for more than 75, perhaps that collection has a album and tell who it belongs to, in Cuban baseball there are collections of numbered cards that do not say anything, but when you see the album you know who edited it, this complements my previous comment, when you read it you tell me.
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It is not a team from the Cuban league, it is from the Negro Leagues, the Lincoln Star, in 1914 when they were playing a series with Habana and Almendares at Almendares Park, the players, Dismukes, Webster, Santop etc, I ask them: they want to see the photo?
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On May 17, 1957, the first baseball and boxing postage stamps were issued in Cuba.
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Ray, now I had time and I saw Dihigo's postcard again and my analysis tells me the following, on the back it says: 50 years in the service of National Sports, that does not refer to Dihigo, it refers to perhaps 50 years of a station radio or television, it can also be a magazine or a newspaper that published a collection to commemorate the anniversary, Martin's postcard has # 27, perhaps more players and athletes in general that were mentioned during those 50 years are in the series, For example, in Cuba there are currently 2 radio stations that transmit all national and international sports, and in their advertisements they mention the years they have been informing radio listeners, one has been for 60 years and the other for more than 75, perhaps that collection has a album and tell who it belongs to, in Cuban baseball there are collections of numbered cards that do not say anything, but when you see the album you know who edited it, this complements my previous comment, when you read it you tell me.
Thanks Rolando for taking the time to read my post and respond. I now believe this is a fake card but it was a learning experience.
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On May 17, 1957, the first baseball and boxing postage stamps were issued in Cuba.
Thanks for that. I wasn't sure of the year. As I recall, there are a number of different sports in the series? I think I had a full run at some point.
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Now I will look for the complete series and an envelope of the 1st day of issue, I found you others of this theme, you will see them after you see what is now.
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Ray, you tell me that the postcard is false, as you say you gain in experience, it has happened to all of us at some point in the beginning, I am not a specialist in baseball from Mexico, if you need help in some of Cuban baseball, you let me know,
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I've really enjoyed this thread. Thank you Rolando. Your Ted Williams pic reminded me of this souvenir photo I have of the 1931 Dodgers in Sloppy Joe's Bar.

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Justin, excellent photo from 1931, I had never seen it, Sloppy Joe, for many years it was visited by famous players, since McGraw saw him for the first time in 1911, and the owner of the place, the Spanish José Abeal, and MacGraw became good friends, but José always got his long-sleeved shirt dirty and I called him dirty Joe, and he also called him muddy Joe, and Jose decided to name the restaurant that, McGraw every year came to Cuba with his wife and visited the place. The Sloppy Joe was closed for several decades, but a few years ago they did a great renovation including the giant bar of the bar and it was wonderful, about 4 or 5 years ago I was visiting the place and I felt good remembering the anecdotes of that place.
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The collection of the 1928 Billiken and La Moda cigars with the Cincinnati players is very rare, now I show you a small part of the photo used for one of the cards of that collection, the ad is shown in the rubber stamp stamped in the photo original file. The player is Zittman.
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