Specialized Catalog Cuban Cards Answer

[Roland 49]

Hi, I received several emails asking me about my catalog, here the answer: It was printed on december 2020 only 10 copies. A friend of mine took 3 copies to Spain, sold 2 in ebay. The third one will be soon for sale. You will fing in my book rare card for example; Cabañas 1909 3 diferent cards of Luis Bustamante, Punch 1910, 2 diferent of Chichó González, La Eminencia Cigars 1920, Billiken 1923-24 in format 8"x10", Gener Cigars 1925, José L.Piedra cigars 1940, Ice Crean Hatuey 1946, etc. Best regards.

[doug.goodman]

Originally Posted by Roland 49

Hi, I received several emails asking me about my catalog, here the answer: It was printed on december 2020 only 10 copies. A friend of mine took 3 copies to Spain, sold 2 in ebay. The third one will be soon for sale. You will fing in my book rare card for example; Cabañas 1909 3 diferent cards of Luis Bustamante, Punch 1910, 2 diferent of Chichó González, La Eminencia Cigars 1920, Billiken 1923-24 in format 8"x10", Gener Cigars 1925, José L.Piedra cigars 1940, Ice Crean Hatuey 1946, etc. Best regards.

Why not print more, or have a pdf?

Doug

[Roland 49]

Now see in ebay cuban baseball. Rolando Sánchez cuban baseball card negro leagues 1909-1957 Specialized Catalog.

[doug.goodman]

Thank you, but I don't want to spend $112 for a catalog of baseball cards (most of which I will never see or own), I would rather spend $112 on baseball cards.

You should make more of them, and sell them for less.

Doug

[steve B]

112 isn't crazy for a specialized catalog in many other hobbies.

https://www.amosadvantage.com/produc...mps-and-covers
104.99 on sale from 135.
The digital version is almost 75.

https://www.safepub.com/stamp-collec...chel-catalogs/

Note, the ones in English were published in 2016 and are still 160.... The US/monolingual tax...

On the other hand, a catalog I paid 100 for years ago went digital, free updates by email. Then was put on google for free.

Any catalog publishing is changing a lot. One of the clubs I'm in has digitized a lot of classic reference books and they're available free online for members. Cheap for only $15 a year, as many of the originals sell for over 100 each.

Now the point about making more then 10 is totally valid. But 10 may be enough to prove interest for either print on demand, or a much larger press run.
Most very specialized catalogs are done in runs of 500, maybe 1000 if the topic is popular, and never actaually make money.

[Roland 49]

Hi Steve, you are right, I plan to make more catalogs, but at the moment there is a delay, there are 3 volumes, the first is this specialized catalog of postcards 1909-1957, the second volume is a catalog of postcards and printed matter 1881-1961, the third catalog is clothing, fabrics, glassware, ceramics etc, the latter is in print and will be ready in a few days, and then I can send others to print. As for the sale price, I am not the seller, he decides the price he wants, the seller took 3 books last December, the first one put a starting price of $ 79.99 on ebay and it sold for $ 307.99, the second He sold it last January in a store format with a starting price of $ 300 and it was also sold, let's wait to see how much it arrives. These catalogs are my 38-year research work on Cuban baseball memorabilia, greetings.

[Roland 49]

Answers to questions that have been asked me in emails and private emails. 1-More than 2,500 postcards are cataloged in the catalog. 2- It is printed on 130g chrome paper. the cover in 250g chromed and laminated cardboard. all in color. 3- All the images on the cards have been in my hands and through many years I have scanned or photographed them. 4-Volume 2 is post card and printed 1881-1961.

[Roland 49]

Answers to questions 1- As you saw in the images shown in the catalog item, in the case of the Cabañas 1909 Cigar cards, in the Detroit team two different cards are shown because they are two different impressions, which appear in the lower bar that identifies the player, these variations appear on the 12 cards, that is to say: there are 24, when I started the collection many years ago in my portfolio there were 24. On the same page there are 3 Luis Bustamante cards as all three have different names in the bottom bar, that's why they scan all three. On the same sheet of the Cabañas Cigars book, the photo that you see taken by me at my work table, with some cards next to it, that is the original sheet designed in the printing press before printing the cards.

[Roland 49]

Diaz 1924? That factory never existed, in 1870s Tomas Gutiérrez registered his trademark and remained with that name until 1960, since its foundation it had several owners, in 1910 it was Manuel López and that same year the owners of the El Rey del Mundo Factory, it was Diaz, y Cia. In my catalog they appear with his real name Tomás Gutiérrez Major League Baseball 1924. I don't know who put these cards Diaz, but he made a serious mistake, since they call them by a false name.

[Jason19th]

Rolando
I have posted this item before but no one has ever had any info on it. I believe that it is the first book published in Cuba which included a section on baseball. I know that there were earlier newspapers published which coveted baseball. The base ball section is a translation of an 1870 American book. Any thoughts would be appreciated

[Exhibitman]

If you are going with color it does get expensive. I decided to to my books in black and white because color versions would have been over $100 per copy. It is a balance between wanting to deliver a product that lots of people will be willing to purchase versus one that does everything you want it to do. I opted for mass appeal.

[Roland 49]

Hello Jason 19, I do not know the book you mention from 1870, baseball entered Cuba in 1864 when Nemesio Guillo brought the first bat and ball to Cuba after studying in the United States, it is known from some games one between players from Havana and American sailors who challenged them, that was in 1868, and some games are known 1874, 1878, in this year the first official game of Cuban Baseball is played, I know from newspaper and magazine writings of that time, the first magazine of Baseball in Cuba and Latin America was printed on the island in 1881 and its name was "Base ball" in volume 2 of my catalogs, I show photos from that magazine.

[Roland 49]

Jason 19 answered him a few minutes ago and I told him that he does not know that book, because the image that you sent me does not correspond to the cover of the book, but, it seemed familiar to me, now I looked for the book in my collection and I found it, I have it in almost perfect condition, its original title is: "Los Sport y la Higiene" its author is Blas San Martin, I also have another edition from 1887.

[Roland 49]

Joe, I will tell you that there are many things about Kevin Connor that I will mention in 2 messages, In cards: 1- Catamelos El Indio postcard # 6, 2- Diaz Orthopedics # 13. 3- Aceb # 12 matches

[Roland 49]

Hello, I apologize but when I started the previous message they called me on the phone and I had to leave in my car, I will try to finish now. Kevin Connors appears in several collections, In my specialized catalog: El Indio # 6. Ortopedia Díaz # 13 in this collection that is rare also appears Ray Dandridge's postcard and on the catalog page you can see his photos and numbers. Aceb # 12 although this collection is not numbered, but I have the original photos with which the cards were printed. Kevin in my catalog # 2, on cards and postcard: Trinidad and Hno. Rollos Ansco, Sol de Oro, Newton Estape 8 "× 10", all of the above is Connor in photos where he is alone. In collections in large format but together with the other Almendares players, Publicidad Menendez, there are 2 printed in black and blue, Victory Banquet at the Coca Cola factory in Havana, Diploma of the Photos Magazine, Sport Guia Magazine, Magazine Chronicle, Board of Directors of Almendares, this form was from my father and he took all the players to sign it, the signatures of Connors and Monte Irvin appear, now an anecdote of this photo, in 2004 Monte Irvin was here in My house with Belinda Manning, the daughter of Max Manning, they were on that first visit to my house the same as in the second more than 5 hours, seeing things from when he played in Cuba and I showed him that form signed by him, that's where he looks at me and he says to me: look Rolando, I'm with Connors The Rifleman. Irvin and I had a great friendship and for years we had contact by mail and emails, one day he sent me one telling me that Buck O'Neil wanted to come to my house that if I agreed to prepare the trip, I said yes, but at the unfortunately a short time passed away.

[Roland 49]

The message that my friend Monte Irvin sent me told me that Buck O'Neil wanted to come to my house that if I agreed to prepare the trip and see so many things that Monte told him, I said yes but unfortunately he passed away. Irvin also saw balls signed by him at that time and also signed by Connors. I asked Irvin what your first card was and he told me the Topp, then I said: No! Your first card was Caramelos El Indio, he was amazed because he had never seen it.

[Roland 49]

Spalding Guide in Spanish. Hello, in your email you ask me if it is true that a guide was printed in Spanish in 1908, I am going to expand the answer, now I have in my hands the first Spalding Guide in Spanish 1885, it is something very interesting since A.G. Spalding writes about the advances of baseball in Cuba and authorizes the printing of the guide in Cuba, among other things that he describes in his writing and signs it, in all its pages baseball is described in Cuba at that time. Now I have the 1908 guide, very interesting everything that has to do with statistics and mainly the photos of the players from that era of the black leagues, the teams that visited Cuba in those years, etc. The Spalding guides in Spanish are a great rarity since a small number of copies were printed. A few years ago an American collector who visited me told me that the few pages they have appear on the Library of Congress, the Black Leagues and the Hall of Fame pages.

[Roland 49]

You ask me in your email if I can answer you some questions from Ted William and Mikey Mantle when they were in Havana, but you don't tell me what you want to know, I've been answering questions about Cuban baseball for more than 30 years, for me it's a pleasure to answer Any question they ask me so repeat the email and tell me.

[Roland 49]

Willie Mays at the Cerro Stadium, in your email you ask me if Mays played at the Cerro, that question has a long answer but I am going to give you a summary. There are 3 answers 1- Yes, the juice in the practices in the fields. 2- His records do not exist because he did not line up in any game. 3- Juice with another name? The story is long but I will tell you something, Mays was recommended to the owners of Almendares by Leo Durocher, Mendoza the owner of the team hired him, but when he arrived in Cuba he was already injured they waited for his recovery and he began in practice and at that moment there was A false report from Alejandro Pompez to the Major Leagues saying that he had been injured in Cuba, so they prohibited him from playing in the championship, he continued practicing on the field and was in uniform, he signed many balls, in my collection I had 2, shora comes the part interesting, which is the answer 3, many years ago I was young and I was next to two men and they always told me anecdotes about the ball and that day in a moment to

[Roland 49]

Hello, you ask me which was the first North American team to play in Cuba, to that question I give 2 answers: As appears in a publication of that time, sailors from a merchant ship who were in the port of Matanzas challenged players from Havana for a game and the players from Havana went to Matanzas and played with the North American sailors.This happened in 1868 and I consider it the first international baseball game, now officially in December 1879, a North American team called "Hop Bitter 'and they held matches on the grounds of" El Siboney "or" Tulipan "in Cerro, the meeting was on December 20, 1879.

[Roland 49]

Ted Williams and Miikey Mantle in Havana, I answer your question that I now receive, if I have photos of them, from Ted at Stadium La Tropical at home plate at bat, another very interesting from Ted at the bar of the world famous "Sloppy Joe's "This bar-restaurant owes its name to John Mc Graw, who was the one who called it that way and its owner, a Spaniard, gave it that official name, it is a very interesting story but it would take a long time to answer. Of Mantle now I have in my hands a unique photo: Mantle in the box of the Estadio del Cerro preparing to throw the ball (pitcher).

[Roland 49]

Hello everyone, now I connected to ebay cuban baseball and I see that my catalog was sold last Saturday, I am sure that the winner is one of the participants in this thread, known to me previously or the new ones that I am getting to know, the winner of Now I do not know when you will receive the book since it is a shipment from Spain, at the moment this is the last that you will see, the 3 bought by American collectors, For me it is a satisfaction that the first is in the hands of Steve Peissig, since we have Previous contacts and I know that he is a great connoisseur of Cuban cards, the others do not know who they are, but I am sure that they are also knowledgeable and will have it as a guide of what they know and what they have never seen in terms of Cuban cards.

[Kenny Cole]

Hi Rolando, I won the last catalog. I also sent a message to Clem, so when you have a chance to respond, I would appreciate it. No rush though. Given how long it took me to get back to you, it is absolutely fair for you to take whatever time you need. Best,

Kenny Cole

[Roland 49]

Hi Kenny Cole now I connected to the thread and I read your message that you won the catalog I am very happy since we have been in contact for some time, I have not received any recent message through Clem, he is a great person and very helpful, but with a lot He works and constantly receives emails and they accumulate and he delays in answering them, a few days ago he was sick and an email that I sent him told me that he would send them in a few days when he was better in health, he had had to go to the hospital, he answered that already I was better, the last email from you to me, I answered you right away, I don't know if you received it, this was I think more than a week ago, I answered your questions; Yes, I have separated the Mallorquinas cards, Cabañas, the Alejandro Oms postcards from 1919, the 1920 ones, the Cuban Stars, etc., The Mallorquinas from W. Foster and Lloyd, when you asked I no longer had them, when I received your message from Clem I answer you through him, greetings

[Roland 49]

Kenny I have a question about your last email, I wrote you yesterday, but there is something I need you to answer me, Mallorquinas and Cabañas ok. postcard 1918 Oms and team ok. J.F. 1921 Cubans Star autographed ok. The question I have is in the 1921 postcard of Champion Mesa and team, the latter yes or no, answer me here, the rest are no problem, I have not received the emails you mentioned, greetings.

[Kenny Cole]

Rolando, I don't appear to have gotten your email from yesterday. But I think no on the Mesa right now. Thank you.

Kenny Cole

[Scocs]

Hello, I would just like to know when the English language baseball card catalogs will be published.

Thank you,
Scott

[Roland 49]

Hi Scott, I plan to do my catalogs in Spanish and later in English, but there has been a long delay mainly due to covid 19.

[Roland 49]

Hello, my answer is yes, those leaves that you see in Cuban ebay belong to the luxury album of Tomás Gutiérrez, it is unfortunate that they find it mutilated finger by finger so to speak, that tobacco manufacturer gave away the postcards when buying the pack and for To get the album you had to take the entire collection to the factory and they gave you the album, all of them are of such rarity, I don't know how many it printed, but I have had 3 of different years in my hands, all of them have unique characteristics.

[Roland 49]

Babe Ruth on Cuban cards. I answer you that where the image of Babe Ruth first appeared was in 1924 in the printed album of Tomas Gutiérrez, to obtain this album it was necessary to deliver the complete collection of the 136 pitchers in the factory. In my catalog on the Tomas Gutiérrez Major League 1924 collection page appears the album cover and the page corresponding to New York and we see Babe and all the team members in individual photos, In 1930 Ruth also appears in the Chocolate Baguer collection in a card to stick in the album, in Montiel Collections 1946-47 with # 41 appears Babe, to stick in the album.

[Roland 49]

Hello Octavio, in your message that I did not understand well, I think you mentioned to me about the Hall of Fame, in Cuba the Hall was created in 1939, some time after the one in the United States, from 1939 to 1961, 68 members were exalted, but at the end Professional Baseball in Cuba stopped working, in 2014 we met a group of 12 people between journalists and historians and after 3 months preparing the regulations etc. We put it to work again, 10 were exalted, from the professional stage 5 and the National Series 5, the exaltation took place in December 2014 with a historic act before starting the All-Star Game. Orestes Miñoso, Camilo Pascual, Conrado Marrero, A. Maestri, Esteban Bellan who played in the leagues in the United States in the 19th century were exalted, there is much to write about this since I was from the first moment in the group of 12. Greetings

[rjackson44]

Wow thank you roland

[Roland 49]

Hello Octavio, now I see that you read the thread, I will tell you something more about the Hall of Fame of Cuba, in his first election they were 10, the first one that appears on the plaque is Bustamante, Jose Mendez, Cristobal Torriente, also Marsan, Almeida etc. , the first plaque was made of bronze and was placed in the Estadio de la Tropical, when the Great Stadium of Havana was inaugurated it was replaced by a marble plaque, and every year the names of the new members were included in bronze letters, that plaque was restored a few months ago along with another plaque of the players who went to the War of Independence of 1895, this plaque was inaugurated in 1948, on December 29, 2020, in an act to celebrate the date of "Dia del Baseball "were unveiled on one of the walls of the Estádium, and after the restoration they recovered all their splendor, that day 29, the date of the first" Official Game "is commemorated when Habana and Almendares inaugurated the first Cuban championship with a game. in 187 8.

[Roland 49]

Hello, you tell me to answer you on the thread. "Punch" 1910. You say that you saw the images in my catalog on ebay, now I answer you, In the list of the known cards appear, since perhaps there are more, some of the players who played in the series do not appear in the collection and the answer is: the cards were not made or until now none have appeared, but they could appear in the future. This collection is of great rarity. Another of your questions I answer, I show two Chicho González cards because they are both different, in one of them the letters are printed in block letters and in the other handwritten, in one it says Pitcher and in the other not, this variation appears in several, but I put Chicho because of the anecdote that he threw Ty Cobb in a game 3 times and he always dominated it. In 1910 when Detroit and Philadelphia played the series with Habana and Almendares there are many things to tell, two Cigarette Factories had a relationship with these teams "Punch" and "Larrañaga" I will tell you this and other things in another message.

[Roland 49]

Hello Marcos, you ask me about Napoleon Reyes from "Felice" 1945, now I answer you, in my specialized catalog on the page corresponding to that series I give the whole answer with 4 Napoleon cards scanned in all their variants, but I will tell you that this card is very rare, when the series came out the news was given that there was a card that would be the prize that the factory would give to all who presented it, for a long time many collectors completed 99 cards and all of them lacked # 73, then they began to appear with some characteristics: 1- the normal card that is to say with the face of Reyes. 2- The card with a stamp that said "Exclusively to collect" 3-The card with a stamp that said "Exclusively to collect" and underneath another stamp that said "No premium" 4- The premium card that was the most important and rare, the card had a quadrangular stamp that reads: "Candy Packing Company, address and telephone number and the manager's signature." There were very few of the premium, but also in any of the variants that I mentioned.