Greg Morris Cards - Grading

[deweyinthehall]

Originally Posted by jchcollins

"King of the Commons" was actually Bill Henderson, but same type of dealer and they came out of the same era. Bill is either retired or dead; I went googling for him a while back out of sheer curiosity, but didn't find anything. Yeah, unfortunately the same type of stuff: Those guys got to where they would call anything EX, so long as there wasn't a noticeable crease. I get it based on how raw grading worked in the 1980's and earlier; this is the era I grew up in the hobby with. Unfortunately whether for right or wrong 25 years later, standards change. Yes, a card can be "below EX" with just corner problems and no creases. Happens all the time. Earlier this year, I was in a bit of a hurry and pulled the trigger on a '63 Koufax on eBay from Kit because it was centered. Advertised as "EX". The great centering aside, when the card arrived in the mail - it's probably a 3.5 at best. There is just too much corner wear on the full bleed borders for me to call it EX without lying to myself. Yes, my fault for being in a hurry - and it's still a nice enough card. But point being, this is how some of those guys grade still.

Yes - it was Bill Henderson! Wow - that takes me back to an earlier era...back in the day the only mail ordering I did was with Renata Galasso out of NYC.

[thatkidfromjerrymaguire]

+1 that Greg Morris is a very conservative and accurate grader.

Any time I’ve purchased from him I found the cards to either be as advertised and in some cases under graded. I have never gotten a card from him that didn’t meet or exceed my expectations. The slightly higher prices his auctions get reflect that I think.

[Bigdaddy]

Another +1 here for GMC as I've found his grading always either spot on or a bit conservative, unlike many other dealers on the 'bay. His tendency to grade conservatively is reflected in the prices he gets on his auctions.

Nothing that hasn't been said above, just another voice chiming in.

[nwfsteve]

I've sold several hundred cards through him in the last few months. As a client, he grades tough but fair. His EX is closer to ex-mt in my opinion. I think he is less critical on centering. Its given me a nice baseline by which to judge my own collection.

[homerunderby]

Originally Posted by deweyinthehall

Yes - it was Bill Henderson! Wow - that takes me back to an earlier era...back in the day the only mail ordering I did was with Renata Galasso out of NYC.

Someone needs to set up a "Hall of Fame" for some of these early dealers, Richard Gelman, Larry Fritsch Cards (who had everything but for about 5x what you could get it for anywhere else), Renato Galasso, Bill Henderson, Paul Marchant...

[JoeWillyMammoth]

Greg Morris Cards shipping is up a dollar over the past year, currently at $4.95.

[savedfrommyspokes]

Originally Posted by JoeWillyMammoth

Greg Morris Cards shipping is up a dollar over the past year, currently at $4.95.

That would make sense as shipping for a First Class package is up almost a $1 since Sept. 2021.

In related s/h cost increases, GMC is another "victim" of the ebay authenticity program now advertising separate s/h charges for orders that are split between going to the authenticator and the buyer. Ebay creates yet another win (I mean expense) for the buyer.

[ALR-bishop]

I am a fan of Morris. I have fond memories of Bill Henderson. And apparently being as stupid as I am I have bought from Dean too 😎

[cornhusker]

I've found GM descriptions to be spot on or understated at times. It makes sense for them to be accurate - they get great prices and I would assume have fewer returns.
They've sold a couple thousand cards for me this past year and generally, they graded the cards a bit more conservative that I did... and I'm fairly harsh. They got great prices even for the commons that allowed me to pay for a back operation for my 4 legged pal and pick up a nice '54 Red Heart Mantle. Neither was cheap, but a shout out to the University of Penn Vet School. Weinner Boy is "trouble walkin" again.

[jayshum]

Originally Posted by ALR-bishop

I am a fan of Morris. I have fond memories of Bill Henderson. And apparently being as stupid as I am I have bought from Dean too 😎

Bill Henderson was a regular dealer at the Philly Show when I first started going to it in the mid-90s. I bought plenty of cards from him when I was working on my Topps sets. He was always friendly and easy to deal with. From what I remember, he had boxes of cards of varying condition so if you were buying from him in person, you could see for yourself if the stated grade was accurate and worth the price.

[cornhusker]

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[ALR-bishop]

Jay---I actually ran into him once in a St Louis card shop while he was buying out their inventory