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Old 03-02-2021, 06:15 AM
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And while the subgrades are cool, they aren't free. I want to say it cost $10 extra if you want subgrades on your card.
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Old 03-02-2021, 07:36 AM
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I buy a lot of non-sport CGC cards, they bring about $ .60 on the dollar of PSA values. It has allowed my 7 year old to fill some holes in his sets for a lot cheaper than PSA, and gives a little peace of mind the card is potentially not counterfeit. Their grading is no better or worse than anybody else PSA or Beckett, the only thing I have found is non sports cards in their holders are across the board cheaper. As I remember a lot of people made a lot of money in this hobby buying SGC cards in the past and re-submitting to PSA because they had the same issue with resale prices. Maybe it's not the worst thing in the world that it is going to cost $ 50- $ 100 to have a card graded by PSA going forward, it's going to eliminate re-subbing cards over and over again to get a higher grade.

Either way, I think CGC has a place in this hobby, they offer an encapsulation service, and with PSA's price increases their prices are probably in line with the product you are getting. I just don't see a lot of high dollar cards going into their holders until they can prove they add value to the card, and so for at least in non-sports cards they have not shown they do. My son is putting together a large sub to go to CGC of Pokemon cards, they are not cards he has a desire to sell, but are basically the key cards in sets, and he wants graded cards. When he has cards that he wants to sell we bite the bullet, pay the premium and send to PSA or Beckett, because they yield a better ROI on the grading costs. I would guess that The BB cards I submit to them will be the same way, not cards that will be sold, but key cards that I just want in a holder for my PC, much as SGC graded cards in my collection.
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Steve,

Thanks - interesting insight and analysis. We shall see!
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And while the subgrades are cool, they aren't free. I want to say it cost $10 extra if you want subgrades on your card.
So if you don’t want them, is all that space on the flip empty?
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With SGC already in the market and an almost unlimited number of potential acronyms out there, they have to pick CSG? Seriously? It’s only a typo away!
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I, for one, will not be buying any of these slabbed cards. Scary sh*t. Watch how easily this guy cracks open CGC slabs at about the 8:00 mark.

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I, for one, will not be buying any of these slabbed cards. Scary sh*t. Watch how easily this guy cracks open CGC slabs at about the 8:00 mark.

https://youtu.be/oxYsegNMUCI
You're absolutely right, that was way too easy. If the holders are the same for baseball cards scammers will have a field day, no doubt.
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I did read in some of the comments from that You Tube of the guy cracking open the case and it said they they have addressed the issue about the cases.
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Old 03-03-2021, 07:08 AM
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You're absolutely right, that was way too easy. If the holders are the same for baseball cards scammers will have a field day, no doubt.

That is unbelievable! How in the world can a new company not make sure this can't happen? That's one of the reasons why I like BGS.

I did the exact same thing with an SGC 7 Jerry Rice card. See images below. You can barely tell the slab was opened. I could have easily put a lower graded card in there and most people would never notice.
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After watching that video I decided to see how hard it would be to open a GMA slab. I had never really looked at the slab before. It is lapped one side over the other. Similar to the old GAI slabs. Only way to get the card out is to break the slab. I liked that. Frank
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That was not the "finished product" for CSG. There is a nearly identical video of Scott A. breaking open PSA cases by hand, with relative ease. Both CSG and PSA have subsequently made it far tougher to open the slabs without breaking them.
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CGC / CSG - same company?

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CGC / CSG - same company?
Correct. Same parent company.
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So if you don’t want them, is all that space on the flip empty?
I wonder this as well. Has the company made any statements explaining why the slab is so tall?
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