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back damage to a Mayo
Posted By: warshawlaw
I was recently sold a "vg" Mayo with a decent horizontal crease. when I got it, the card had about 15% of the back surface missing from scrapbook removal (probably what generated the front crease too). IMHO a card in this shape is no better than fair. Am I on base? |
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back damage to a Mayo
Posted By: Greg Ecklund
You are absolutely right - I recently bought a few Exhibit cards from Ebay that had the same problem. I ended up getting a partial refund because I still liked the cards, but the back damage obviously lowered the resale value should I ever want to part with them in the future. |
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back damage to a Mayo
Posted By: The Other One (Julie)
there are collectors who consider the black back of as Mayo no more saacrosanct than the blank back of an Old Judge...I belong to the hell with it Old Judge back school--but not the Mayo. So why didn't you ask for a back scan, or at least a back report? If he implied that aside from the crease, the card was great, he lied. |
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back damage to a Mayo
Posted By: Brian H (misunderestimated)
I think one would be hard pressed to argue that it doesn't bring the grade way down (that's how all collectors and grading services I have ever dealt with would view it).... But Julie's point is certainly valid: it is like an Old Judge with back problems in that it doesn't bother me personally nearly as much as it would with an issue that had something printed on the back in the first place. |
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back damage to a Mayo
Posted By: Greg Ecklund
While back damage matters for certain cards more than others, it should be left up to the buyer rather than the seller to determine what is important regarding condition. Honest sellers should point out all flaws in a card and let the buyer make the call. |
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back damage to a Mayo
Posted By: James Verrill
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back damage to a Mayo
Posted By: warshawlaw
I will not deal with this seller ever again, even if he refunds my payment, because I cannot trust what he says. Sorry Julie, but I don't believe it is the buyer's job to cross-examine the seller over condition on a $50 card that the seller lists as vg, especially when the seller has been around a long time and knows card grading. |
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back damage to a Mayo
Posted By: IMO
IMO I agree with everyone here - paper loss is a great detractor from a card. This is particularly true when the card is not a blank back card. |
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back damage to a Mayo
Posted By: The Other One (Julie)
lied."--me. |
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back damage to a Mayo
Posted By: leon
If you read the Mastro thesis on each card (which can be quite entertaining in itself) they will tell you there is whatever damage and "irrespective" of this (or whatever other disclosure word they use) the card is in xx condition. You just gotta read the descriptions closely. As long as everything is openly disclosed I can make my own assessments on technical grades. I know that in earlier collecting days condition wasn't as important to most. This ain't earlier days though......So in summation I don't really have an issue with them doing this. Heck most dealers sell 1-2 grades higher than the card anyway....later |
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