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Two Crappy Ebay Experiences
Posted By: Matt
Two really lousy experiences the past few weeks; maybe somebody has some insight for me, or at least will learn from my mistakes. I buy many raw cards on ebay, so the risk of getting a lemon is there. |
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Two Crappy Ebay Experiences
Posted By: JK
Matt, |
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Posted By: Jason L
a bank account, can't Paypal just take the money from there? |
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Posted By: sagard
PayPal can't just dip into your bank account. However the next time you pay or get paid for anything PayPal will seize that money. |
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Posted By: Matt
Josh - Jason is correct; I don't keep money in my Paypal account. Paypal took the money from my Credit Card company. More specifically, Paypal sent my CC a letter saying I hadn't returned the card (which my CC knew since I told them the seller gave me no return address). Since Paypal produced the return address, my chargeback was reversed and the CC gave back the money. My CC said I could get the money back if I returned the card to that address, which I did with delivery conf, but then Paypal said delivery conf isn't good enough. |
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Posted By: Steve
Email the seller with the name of the internet crimes investigator of HIS home towns' PD, that you'll be contacting in 24 hours, if no refund given. (very easy to find this info when Googled) |
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Posted By: Matt
Steve - the problem is that in both cases I don't know how the threat could be taken as desired. |
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Posted By: Shawn Chambers
Matt, |
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Posted By: JK
Matt, |
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Posted By: JK
Jason, |
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Posted By: Matt
Shawn - that's a good idea - the listing is down, but I do have emails from the seller with the scans. |
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Two Crappy Ebay Experiences
Posted By: Sean BH
Matt, |
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Posted By: Matt
Sean - you don't need to declare value to USPS unless you are shipping insured. |
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Posted By: Sean BH
Matt, |
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Posted By: JK
Matt, |
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Posted By: Matt
Sean - The way it went down is that the CC company sided with Paypal once Paypal provided the address. When they got the address to me, I promptly used it to return the card and "proof of delivery" was the wording the CC company used. I even called to clarify if "delivery confirmation" would qualify as "proof of delivery" and the rep on the phone said they didn't have an official policy on it, but he didn't see why it shouldn't count. Then, I provided the info to the CC company, who turned around to Paypal to show them the delivery conf, to which Paypal responded, that delivery conf wasn't good enough. I would have sent it signature required, except I'm certain the seller would have just denied it since he know he scammed me and I would have been nowhere and out the shipping $$. |
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Posted By: JK
Matt, |
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Posted By: S Gross
Only one suggestion -----------> Sounds like your CC screwed you ..... so, screw them !!!! |
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Posted By: Red
This was a problem situation and you needed to protect yourself. Calling up to see if DC was good enough for proof of delivery should have been a warning to you that maybe a signature confirmation would be more appropriate in this matter. Paypal really preys on people not knowing the rules. They are fighting for that money as hard as you and the seller. If Paypal's money is at risk the will take it away from wherever they can get it, and usually this means from the good guy. The bad guys know to take the money and run. |
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Posted By: Steve
If I followed this correctly the reason he had to have signature confirmation was that the deal was over that amount initially as it was part of a 5 card deal? he was only trying to get back the dough on 1 card from that deal? Paypal does not allow for refunds to be made in dribs and drabs. The entire amount had to be refunded. |
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Posted By: JK
I also agree with Scott. You need to put some pressure on the cc company. If you have only spoken to reps, ask to speak to a supervisor as well - they are usually far more reasonable. |
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Posted By: Matt
Red - the seller would certainly have denied any package from me with signature confirmation knowing it would be all the proof I needed to get the money away from him. Delivery Confirmation was the only method which was proof of delivery that didn't require acceptance from the seller. |
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Posted By: Steve
Gotcha, still, I am sorry you are going through this. Good luck! |
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Posted By: Matt
Here is CIA's response. Basically, they don't cover buyers in such scenarios. They do have something to cover sellers up to $250: |
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Posted By: Jason
one of the many reasons I quit accepting or using paypal. |
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Posted By: scott levy
Matt, |
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Posted By: Matt
Here is the latest (and final) response from the ebay seller (orvhughs) in case 1 above. If anyone has any advice on what I do now, please let me know. The threat of local law enforcement drew a laugh from him. |
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Posted By: Rick McQuillan
Hi Matt, I did an ebay search for seller id orvhughs but it didn't come up. Is this the correct seller id? |
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Two Crappy Ebay Experiences
Posted By: teflon-don
that why you always buy graded cards. you purchased raw got burned and now you are crying. will give you my crying towel. |
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Posted By: Matt
Rick - sorry about that. His ebay ID is omhdawg. His name is Orvis Hughes (from Bloomingdale, Georgia). |
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Posted By: leon
Please put your name by your posts in the future as you are not well known by that handle. Say what you want to, per the rules, but you need to be known....Thanks for your understanding. regards |
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Two Crappy Ebay Experiences
Posted By: Matt
beware - this guy just posted a lot of T207s. Read his email to me a few posts above if you want a reference. |
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Two Crappy Ebay Experiences
Posted By: Matt
It now appears both sellers have re-surfaced on ebay. |
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