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Old 02-05-2007, 01:48 PM
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Posted By: RayB

is a nice tool for entering cards to the set and a well appreciated resource.

Humor me if this has been discussed before please.
I noticed that the Back Multipliers are not quite as currently accurate as some of the discussions here regarding Back rarity.
Anybody well heeled in the set and with Backs research experience care to take a stab at realigning these multipliers?
For instance Polar Bear and EPDG are both 1.3 multipliers. I would think based on some typical discussions here that PB would be more like 1.1 and EPDG would be more like 1.5 or 1.75.
Any basic thoughts?
Anybody willing to take a stab at the whole list of 40 Backs?
Maybe we can all come up with agreeable designations.

I'll give it some thought and post here too.
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Old 02-05-2007, 07:24 PM
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Good topic. I'm sure Ted or Scot could produce the complete list.
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Old 02-05-2007, 10:09 PM
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Posted By: barry arnold

This is the question i'm dying to know the answer to since it coalesces
with all the work going on about the ordering of the backs in terms of
rarity. I was thinking it was still a wee bit early, Jim & Ray, since
we're still waiting on the ultimate or at least penultimate results of Brown's SuperSet and Ted's continuing surveys on the various backs.
Still, if Ted or Scot or Bill or any one of the T206 scholars is ready to hazard a guess or 2,
I'd be eager to take notes!!!
all the best,

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Posted By: Brian Weisner


Hi Guy's,
I'll give it a stab when I get home from work. Be well Brian

PS Ted or Scot will probably post before I need too....

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Posted By: Scot Reader

Hey Guys,

I'm buried at work, but when I have a chance I will post percentages for each back as seen in my survey. Assuming a correlation between price and scarcity, one can back-out a rough theoretical backs multiplier from these percentages. Of course, there is NOT a perfect correlation between price and scarcity for several reasons, for example, some backs are more attractive than others, some people care about brands but do not care about factories, etc. Also, there is the emerging issue of "back only" multiplier versus "front/back" multiplier. That is, as the T206 knowledge continues to develop, I expect people will start caring less about the former and more about the latter. Imagine the following conversation in 2017: "Sure you have a Brown Hindu T. Jones (St. Louis), but I have a Piedmont 350 T. Jones (St. Louis), which is five times scarcer as a front/back combination!" Who then, owes whom a premium?

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Old 02-07-2007, 10:31 AM
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Posted By: Scot Reader

Here are the percentages from a T206 backs study that I completed on eBay between 2003 and 2005. The sample size for this backs study, which was a subset of a larger T206 study that I conducted, was 14,010. While this study was not large enough to yield precise data, hopefully these data will add some objectivity to the back premium discussion. My own view is that a premium should be assigned based on a hybrid of the Distinct Back data and the Brand data since some people collect distinct backs while others only collect brands. Scot

By Distinct Back (Brand, Series, Factory, etc.)

Piedmont 35031.52%
Sweet Caporal 350/3013.50%
Piedmont 15011.10%
Polar Bear5.55%
Piedmont 460/25 4.83%
Sweet Caporal 150/304.71%
Sovereign 3504.01%
Sweet Caporal 350/253.42%
Sweet Caporal 150/25 2.77%
Sweet Caporal 460/42 OS 2.20%
Black Old Mill Southern 2.07%
Old Mill1.97%
Sweet Caporal 460/301.76%
Sweet Caporal 150/649 1.64%
Sovereign 1501.49%
Tolstoi1.21%
Cycle 3501.09%
EPDG0.99%
Sovereign 4600.79%
Sweet Caporal 460/42 No OS0.69%
American Beauty 350 Frame0.55%
Sweet Caporal 460/250.52%
Brown Hindu0.46%
Cycle 4600.25%
American Beauty 4600.22%
Carolina Brights0.17%
Black Lenox0.12%
Piedmont 460/42 0.12%
American Beauty 350 No Frame 0.10%
Broad Leaf 350 0.09%
Drum0.05%
Uzit0.03%
Red Hindu0.02%
Broad Leaf 460 0.01%
Brown Lenox0.01%
Brown Old Mill Southern Not Seen
Old Mill Southern OSNot Seen

By Brand

Piedmont47.57%
Sweet Caporal31.21%
Sovereign6.29%
Polar Bear5.55%
Old Mill4.04%
Cycle1.34%
Tolstoi1.21%
EPDG0.99%
American Beauty 0.87%
Hindu0.48%
Carolina Brights0.17%
Lenox0.13%
Broad Leaf0.10%
Drum0.05%
Uzit0.03%

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