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Tobacco cards: what was the original art medium?
Posted By: Anonymous
Although I am more familiar with early tobacco hockey cards (Imperial Tobacco C55 & C56), they have an identical "look" to baseball sets like T206, so I will ask this question on this forum: |
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Tobacco cards: what was the original art medium?
Posted By: davidcycleback
For many of the 1800s color baseball cards, like the Tobin Lithographs and Allen & Ginters, there was no original medium. Using special lithographic tools, the artist or craftsman did the art directly onto the printing plates (actually stones back then). The artist added oily substance to the printing plate, and the watery litho ink naturally avoids the oil-- thus creating the desired design. If you have a lithographic pencil, it's much like a regular pencil but the end has the oily/waxy substance instead of lead. You can draw with it just like a pencil or pen. |
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Tobacco cards: what was the original art medium?
Posted By: Anonymous
Thank you very much for your answer. |
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Tobacco cards: what was the original art medium?
Posted By: Gilbert Maines
Certainly wood is not as durable a tool for printing as current technology allows. Can you distinguish degradation in the printing attributable to wear of the block over a print run? Were back up carved blocks occasionally necessary? |
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Tobacco cards: what was the original art medium?
Posted By: T206Collector
...if you will, a T206 printing plate in your collection. How sweet would that be? |
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Tobacco cards: what was the original art medium?
Posted By: Max Weder
Some of the original paintings from the 1930s are around, for National Chicle (football) and Diamond Stars (baseball). I saw the National Chicle at the National (Phil from the Bay area had them for sale) but I'd just be guessing at the medium. |
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Tobacco cards: what was the original art medium?
Posted By: Gilbert Maines
I own two somewhat large non-sport (maps) printing plates. A plate for t206 or any other issue would be a treasure! |
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Tobacco cards: what was the original art medium?
Posted By: davidcycleback
As opposed to from the 1800s, the majority of post 1900 cards, even early ones, were photomechanical reproductions of something. In other words, for a 1910 or 1920 card there was more likely than not a physical photo or sketch or painting it was reproduced from. |
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Tobacco cards: what was the original art medium?
Posted By: Max Weder
My earliest sports printing plate of any note is a plate for Ron McAllister's Hockey Stars Today and Yesterday, published around 1950. Very cool item. |
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Tobacco cards: what was the original art medium?
Posted By: Gilbert Maines
Of course with Rembrandt, collecting his work by state and reworking would require a collector of substantial means, but perhaps that would make for an interesting collection applied to a lesser artist. |
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Tobacco cards: what was the original art medium?
Posted By: davidcycleback
There are touring public print shows were you can view and purchase original |
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Tobacco cards: what was the original art medium?
Posted By: Anonymous
All of this is very interesting and helpful, so thank you. |
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Tobacco cards: what was the original art medium?
Posted By: davidcycleback
The black parts of Wagner and his uniform are reproductions of a photo. The colors are basically 'colorized' giving it the comic book look. Also, lihtography was not as good back then at reproducing photos, contributng to the low resolution look. |
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