My PSA Experiment

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Posted By: Brad L.

Dan,

I don't think anyone ever said that PSA hasn't (or will never again) slab a trimmed card. What everyone is saying, is that they are sick of the OP's constant bashing of PSA and PSA only. And I guess if I were to make a claim like this, I certainly would have proof of it. It's pretty easy to grab a copy of a sub from the PSA site with cert#'s.

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Posted By: boxingcardman

We already know that trimmed cards and cut cards reside in every company's holders. SGC bought back a trimmed T206 Waddell from me last summer. But let's be fair here: PSA SGC and Beckett are not PRO CSA or GAI. By and large they do a decent job. In other words "ho hum."

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Posted By: dan mckee

I agree with Brad and Adam. I must have misread a few posts above. It seemed some posters didn't think it was possible. Dan.

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Posted By: Kevin Saucier

Matt,

Sorry to say that trimmed cards get through all the time, with every grading company. Altered cards of every type also get by. There are websites devoted to this. I think what you are trying to do is prove this point but if offers no educational benefit or shocking news. Modern cards are even easier at that.

Collectors care about their cards and want to protect their investments. If you can show them, even in a subtle way, what they need do look for or provide examples with some possible reasoning then they will liste...sometimes.

Collectors of all levels may not want to hear or see what has or can be done to cards, flips or holders but in the end most are thankful that it may have prevented them from making future mistakes. Again, it should have some educational value.

This forum is made up of some of the world's top collectors and experts, each with their own specialty or niche. Many are far past looking at a trimmed card in a holder...unless it's exceptional work or of high value.

It may be safe to say that discussing the baiscs of a trimmed card just doesn't cut it.


Kevin




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Posted By: Steve

Dan i too know that trimmed cards have gotten past PSA. My posts here were
regarding this specific example.


Steve

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Posted By: Matt

I don't know why SGC said this was trimmed:
http://cgi.ebay.com/1933-Goudey-Baseball-160-Lou-Gehrig-Came-Back-Trimmed_W0QQitemZ370048059588

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Posted By: dan mckee

Understandable Steve, I do not know this poster so you may have some background info that I am unaware of. Heck nothing is perfect, I read a few above posts as if stating that PSA could never slab a trimmed card. Hopefully we will get some scans tonight. Those shiny reprints that are slabbed are interesting. I can see that happening as well if they are looking at that stuff in bulk. Speed over accuracy makes money I would guess. Dan.

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Posted By: Anonymous

edit: posted on wrong thread

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Posted By: Tim Kinserlow

Plifter,

Where is the PSA cert #'s, off the submission? Please provide us with the info, since you have made this damning allegation.

There is no need to go back and forth anymore, just give us the info, and we can review the alleged evidence against PSA.

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Posted By: dan mckee

I am with Tim above.