PSA Class Action Ban Wagon

[irishdenny]

"It's oN, Time to Tell Your Stories!"

The PSA Altered Baseball Cards Class Action Lawsuit is Eric Savoy v. Collector’s Universe, et al., Case No. 30-2020-01130892-CU-RI-CXC, in the Superior Court for the State of California, County of Orange.

"Wanna Join iN?"

https://tinyurl.com/PSA-Ban-Wagon

Could Mr Mastro turn States Evidence and further reveal his knowledge that PSA Knew the Card 0000001(Mr Wagner's T206 PSA 8) was Trimmed!?!?

[Snapolit1]

Ban wagon or band wagon? I guess their bandwagon should be banned! Here here.

[perezfan]

"Ban Wagon" may actually be correct. I believe it refers to the large number of people who've been "removed" from the CU Forum, for speaking out.

Perhaps a few of which will join this class-action.

[drcy]

Originally Posted by perezfan

"Ban Wagon" may actually be correct. I believe it refers to the large number of people who've been "removed" from the CU Forum, for speaking out.

Very good. Banned wagon

As it's a regular event, it may be bran wagon

[hcv123]

Originally Posted by drcy

Very good. Banned wagon

As it's a regular event, it may be bran wagon

Wonder how quick how many will get it!

[Brian Van Horn]

If we're talking shill bidding, I have an interest. I still have a couple of auctions from a few years I would like to check on regarding that matter. I still have the e-mails.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by perezfan

"Ban Wagon" may actually be correct. I believe it refers to the large number of people who've been "removed" from the CU Forum, for speaking out.

Perhaps a few of which will join this class-action.

just remember, class actions are usually a favor for the defendant...its the criminal things that really are what they are worried about

if i make 10 million in a bad way, fine ill pay 4 million back and almost all possible cases are discharged.....i still can live in my waterfront house with my waterfront cards...

[WhenItWasAHobby]

Ban Wagon?!

Nice malapropism! Yogi Berra would be proud!

[drcy]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

just remember, class actions are usually a favor for the defendant

Hmm. Is this a variation on the old saying "With friends like you, who needs enemies"?

[Snapolit1]

Originally Posted by drcy

Hmm. Is this a variation on the old saying "With friends like you, who needs enemies"?

Not a "truism" I've ever heard before.

It is not easy to get a class action certified. Numerous procedural hurdles in federal or state court. Federal Rule of Civil Procedure 23 is the federal court general rule if anyone is curious. But in the event you get a class certified there is often extraordinary pressure on the defendants to settle. Now, in some class settlements precious little flows down to the actual class members. Sure all of you have received notices like "hey, you are a class member in the case of Jones v. Ticketguru . . . there's been a huge settlement and you are entitled to file a claim for up to a buck eighty. But it could be less." Class actions are roundly criticized for a number of things, including fees paid lawyers and often times minimal benefit to class members. "Coupon" settlements where all the class members are given a ticket to get a discount on a future purchase often come under harsh criticism.

Typically in a case like this there will be motion to dismiss stage. Basically the defendants say "you haven't stated a proper legal claim against me. This case should all be dismissed." Briefs fly back and forth. Will take months to be fully briefed. Maybe a ruling in this case late summer of fall? Sometimes motion could be granted in part and denied in part, allowing some part of the identified case to proceed. Or the plaintiff may be given permission to file an amended complaint. If the case is not dismissed there will be a class certification phase, where the plaintiff moves for class certification. More briefing. Usually a big hearing. Lots of powerpoint presentations for the court. More months to a ruling.

FYI, typically defendants will argue that discovery should not be permitted to proceed or should be limited to class certification issues until after motions are ruled on and after certification hearing is held. Plaintiffs typically push for broad discovery immediately, as it pressures the defendant. And is costly. Rulings can go both ways on this.

In any event, cases of this size don't move fast. They are more like battleships that proceed slowly.

[Stampsfan]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

Not a "truism" I've ever heard before.

Thanks Steve for this clarification for us non-legal (IT in my case) types. Much appreciated.

[CMIZ5290]

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[CMIZ5290]

Originally Posted by irishdenny

"It's oN, Time to Tell Your Stories!"

The PSA Altered Baseball Cards Class Action Lawsuit is Eric Savoy v. Collector’s Universe, et al., Case No. 30-2020-01130892-CU-RI-CXC, in the Superior Court for the State of California, County of Orange.

"Wanna Join iN?"

https://tinyurl.com/PSA-Ban-Wagon

Could Mr Mastro turn States Evidence and further reveal his knowledge that PSA Knew the Card 0000001(Mr Wagner's T206 PSA 8) was Trimmed!?!?

Get real Denny... Aye?

[MULLINS5]

I would like to get all grading fees I've paid to PSA refunded. I was told my submissions were graded on the same standards as everyone else and it looks like I was lied to about that.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by drcy

Hmm. Is this a variation on the old saying "With friends like you, who needs enemies"?

The lawyers get their fees and usually get cents on the dollar for the class in my experience.

[drcy]

Some on this board have literally said that some people and companies enjoy being sued

[steve B]

Will it end like this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3x24oA9sI8

[Fuddjcal]

Originally Posted by steve B

Will it end like this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3x24oA9sI8

It's definitely a nice "Optigrab" for your cash. Especially when dopey mcdope dopes can't stop themselves from popping. Even when it's crystal clear it's all known scam, fraud and a billion dollar pounding to us collectors.

Yeah Teddy Blind Bat, AT LEAST A BILLION and you can quote me.

[55koufax]

Don't know if it is ban or band wagon......cuz I'm On The Wagon...

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by drcy

Some on this board have literally said that some people and companies enjoy being sued

If had a choice companies prefer a class action, especially versus a criminal matter....can always shave off a few million when you are making many millions ...have to pay the piper eventually and some ways are the way to go versus other ways.. nobody wants to get sued but they have a preference on how it would go..

[drcy]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

If had a choice companies prefer a class action, especially versus a criminal matter....can always shave off a few million when you are making many millions ...have to pay the piper eventually and some ways are the way to go versus other ways.. nobody wants to get sued but they have a preference on how it would go..

[irishdenny]

Originally Posted by WhenItWasAHobby

Ban Wagon?!

Nice malapropism! Yogi Berra would be proud!

Gotta Love Master Yogi's Wit!!!

i would of commented earlier, Only Your Avatar kept making me laugh... Truly!
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[RCMcKenzie]

Looks like a ding on the lower left corner, Denny. Can't see it getting more than a 6.5.

If I went to a gas station, and they sold me bad gas, I would shrug my shoulders, and buy gas somewhere else.

Can we have a sub-category, away from the main page, that only talks about pre-war cards?

Like the great Joe Walsh said.."I have accountants...pay for it all..."

[RCMcKenzie]

I raise, Denny. Here's a pic my Mom had of me. Great holder...