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I would argue that it's much harder to eat less of the unhealthy food as it's made to be addictive. I haven't had fast food in years and the thought of it still sounds good because it's made to chemically program me to think that way. I won't act on it now because of the diet and lifestyle I've chosen, but it's much harder to eat less of foods like fast food and anything with a lot of sugar.
Addiction to food is very close to drug addiction as it fires off the same receptors in the brain, and the unfortunate part is that you need food, so there is no escaping it. You have to reprogram your brain if you are eating unhealthy and that is a gargantuan task, trust me, I've done it and it took years.
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The other thing about eating poorly is that if you're subsisting on empty calorie foods, you're never full and that's the problem. It's easy to say "eat less and you won't gain weight" but it's a lot harder to tell that to someone who's hungry. You can eat a lot of fast food and then be pretty hungry soon after. That's because everything you just ate was turned into sugar and then fat, and never anything useful in between.
It is not easy to eat healthy in this country and unless a person has full control over their finances, they don't have full control over their nutrition either. They have to make choices like everybody else. And it's usually easier to make a bad choice than a good one. However, people's lives would change if the poison in their food wasn't permitted to be there. There can be fast food but why does it have to be made out of pink slime? Why was your chicken cleaned with chlorine? Why was your ground beef treated with ammonia? Ractopamine leaves a lot of pigs unable to stand up anymore. How can that animal be good for you to eat? Last edited by packs; 12-07-2022 at 01:05 PM. |
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It's a choice to smoke cigarettes, it's a choice to eat fast food, it's a choice to do bad things to yourself for the short term pleasure of it. It is not a choice any one makes anyone else do. It is a choice one is free to make.
If one lacks self control or discipline, then they will probably eat poorly and suffer the obesity and shortened life as a result. Again, you can eat perfectly fine for the same or less money than fast food. It is not difficult to find healthy food in any sizable city in the nation. I was poor and broke living in the hood during college. I managed to eat just fine after I had the wake up call that it might not be wise to stuff garbage into my stomach every day. It's a matter of basic discipline and self-control. Eat healthier to be healthier, eat less to lose weight. Obesity is rampant in the middle and upper classes too. It's not a money problem (many other things negative to health are), obesity is a self-control problem. I want McNuggets too, they're fantastic. But I don't go get them. That is not because I'm not poor anymore, it's because I exercise basic restraint. My grocery store sells the big huge tub of Spinach for the same $5 that the 20 piece McNugget costs. I am confident other people are perfectly capable of this very basic discipline as well. It is not a special quality. I think a poor person is just as capable as possessing discipline or any other virtue as a middle class or upper class person. |
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You talk about a tub of spinach but you can't feed your family of 4 on spinach. You can feed them on McNuggets. You might be skipping over other expenses that exist in favor of a meal choice, which you seem to weigh (pun intended) equally to things like child care and medical bills, common issues people face that drain their resources. I don't think there should be an assumption that people do this to themselves, but rather an understanding that they're trying their best in a world that's stacked against them. Last edited by packs; 12-07-2022 at 01:57 PM. |
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Very interesting link and food desert map: https://www.ers.usda.gov/data-produc...-to-the-atlas/ For me, it was my health that made the decision for me to change my eating habits. I still struggle with weight, but that's a portion problem that I am slowly gaining control of over time. Changing what I ate was INFINITELY more difficult than changing the portion sizes. In my case I had severe joint problems (to the point of almost being prescribed meds for rheumatoid arthritis), then as a last ditch effort removed gluten from my diet and voila! Within a week I felt what it was like to be human again. Then I eliminated dairy after developing a lactose intolerance, and again, quality of life leveled up. Then I removed all meat products, this was mostly an ethical decision, but not a difficult sacrifice as I've never cared for meat at any point in my life, and once again, quality of life went up. Now, shopping at the grocery store is WAY easier, and I cook a ton, which I concede does take a not insignificant amount of time, but I no longer want to go to a restaurant of any kind because my food is better (or at least I like it more). I guess what I'm trying to say is, changing how/what you eat takes a lot of time, effort, and as G1911 said, self discipline, but I would argue that the majority of people have the healthy options within a reasonable distance, and well within their current budget (if they take the time they will likely also lower their food bill).
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Guess what, 20 McNuggets can’t feed a family of four either. It’s not a meal plan for four, obviously one will need more food for more people. It’s a very specific example that you can buy healthy food for the same price as unhealthy food. It’s not an assumption that people do this to themselves. It’s a fact. Nobody is being force fed. There are cheap healthy options. It’s a choice. I’m sorry this doesn’t fit a victim narrative, but nobody is force feeding you McDonald’s. People choose to go there or to go somewhere else. Even at McDonalds you can order the salad, which is also cheap. Hell, free charitable soup kitchens serve healthier food for free! There is not a city in America where you cannot acquire readily fruits and vegetables. Not a single one. Yet again, we have an obesity problem at every step of the income ladder. |
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Imagine....worried about a trial of a 1,000 people when we got billions who are now in a long term trial.
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This is just not true. If you're a child at home your options begin and end with what's brought home for you to eat. That's not force feeding but it's not freedom of choice either. It is also well documented that "fast food salads" are just as unhealthy as anything else on the menu. You have not really allowed any room for anyone to be eating bad food for any other reason than because they choose to. I brought up expenses people face because I guess I think these things factor into food budgets as well. |
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I'm not an anti fast food person. I would prefer people didn't eat it or ate it less but that's not really the problem in my opinion. The problem lies in what happens to the food before it becomes fast food.
Let everyone eat fast food. It's cheap. It's good. But why does it have to be made with pink slime? Why is the chicken treated with chlorine? Why is the beef treated with ammonia? Can't we eliminate these things from our food chain? |
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Yes, youd actually have to think like a day ahead what's on the menu tomorrow. I'm sorry, but poor life decisions and choices are not anyone's fault but themselves...agyer the age of 20 years old. You can only blame your childhood for so long
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If you are referring to my earlier post, in response to an even earlier one (maybe from you) where I suggested that it was not reasonable to assume that a poor family can consistently eat every meal at McDonalds to feed a family of 3-4, it is quite unreasonable to assume that. Just do the math. Some of the obese ARE too poor to afford fast food from McDonalds except maybe occasionally. Some people of average or below-average weight ARE too poor to afford fast food from McDonalds except maybe occasionally. As an extreme example, consider the "deep poverty” household that is defined by an income that falls below 50% of the poverty guidelines ($13,123 for a family of 4). After paying for other necessities such as shelter and clothing, if they could do so at all, how in the world would one expect them to be able to go to McDonalds on a regular basis? Now work backward and do the calculations for those at the poverty level. Again, you can do the math if you like, assuming a reasonable budget for other necessities and then you can determine how many times per week that a family of 4 can get fast food, even if purchasing from a dollar menu.
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Please explain, especially the planet part.
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Eating a plant-based diet is just common sense, or at the very least incorporating more plant-based items will help your overall health. I don't believe that is disputed by anyone.
As far as the environment, this is also well-known and is also not disputed except among those in control of meat, poultry, and dairy industries. This is just one source among many, but it gives a good snapshot of the resource allocation for animal agriculture: One pound of beef takes 2500 gallons of water, eggs 477 gallons of water, and cheese nearly 900 gallons. A really terrifying fact about burning too many fossil fuels as the leading cause of climate change is they all load up the atmosphere and the greenhouse effect makes the temperatures soar at a rate that has never existed in the entire history of the earth. 82% of the world's starving children live in countries where food is fed to animals in livestock and then sold to wealthier and developed countries. Animal agriculture produces 65% of the world's nitrous oxide emissions which has a global warming impact 296 times greater than carbon dioxide. Raising livestock for human consumption generates nearly 15% of total global greenhouse gas emissions, which is greater than all the transportation emissions combined. It also uses nearly 70% of agricultural land which leads to being the major contributor to deforestation, biodiversity loss, and water pollution. Ending our meat and dairy production could pause the growth of greenhouse gas emissions for 30 years, a new study suggests. All we need to do is adapt to a plant-based food system.
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Did you not hear, though, they did another study and found out the vaccines protect against climate change? Instead of getting a booster every 2 months, like they are now recommending, think of how much faster you'll be able to save the planet if you get one every month instead. Now, spread the word and get everyone else onboard too. If those people are unwilling to comply, you can call them anti-vaxxer climate change deniers, or AVCCD's for short. Just think, you'll be well known for creating a new acronym and a hero among your peers!
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Because every thread needs a card...
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So Mars...
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To be fair, the "global pandemic" that never actually existed has only killed 6 million people. I guess it will take more to convince the skeptics...
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Very appropriate to talk about Mars with someone with the handle "Rad Hazard," so in the "did you know" department, did you know that beyond the actual risk of launching, traveling to and returning from Mars in a rocket ship, the radiation hazard is still one of the biggest risks to crew health?
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Eat more than you need, get fat. Eat less than you need, lose weight. Eat what you need, maintain weight. If you get obese on your diet, you are consuming more than you need (except for the tiny % that actually has a true medical condition here). This is not hard. It's basic biology. |
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.... eating less and moving more loses weight...or tapeworm perhaps....in 2022, we really dont need to hear that people in the 30s dont know about what healthy food is and that coca cola is bad for you and costs more than water at mcdonalds yet poor people buy coke. but water is FREE..with that dollar you could get a can of tuna.....heck with the 100 cokes bought a year 'fast food' thats a good amount of healthy food that can be bought....french fries or carrots..which costs more? So people make bad choices... but lets say its a medical condtion. Bacon doesnt need to eaten ever either or Pizza, how much is a can of chickpea and beets... Last edited by 1952boyntoncollector; 12-08-2022 at 05:39 PM. |
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As I've said a few times, the data strongly suggests it provides some improved odds of not having a bad case of it. It is difficult to isolate this factor, diseases tend to grow less severe as they spread and mutate, but it appears to provide a benefit in survival and particularly bad but non-lethal cases for people in especially risky groups. The total benefit is statistically minuscule, as the CDC's own data and projected rates have always shown. A small number of people have bad reactions to it, which appears to be centered in young males (who are statistically incredibly unlikely to die from Covid). It clearly does little or even nothing to prevent infection (which from the recent Pfizer testimony, it appears they never even tested at all), it is clearly not an actual vaccine, it clearly does not do what it was stated to do when they were trying to force it into everyone and destroy the lives of those who declined to personally participate in the fear. If people want to take it, they should take it. If they don't, they shouldn't.
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They DO have a choice. Again, people are not being force fed. You can drink water over a soda. It's cheaper. You can eat a smaller serving, that costs the same or less. Every single city in America has vegetables available for the same price as junk food or less. You absolutely, factually do make choices. Lower income people do not have no choice. That is a blatant lie no matter how much you want to repeat it. You are responsible for what you shove down every day. I still have no idea why every response to the basic concept that you pick how much and what you eat, and that eating more than you need makes one fat, is about poverty. Biology does not care about your class. If you eat more than you need you get fat; whether you are a homeless person or Warren Buffet. If people were too poor, they would be thin from malnutrition and not getting enough. The problem with obesity is people are eating too much. Obviously. It is biological fact. I am sorry you don't like it. |
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Right? Who needs a medical degree when you can just watch a couple of doctored videos on Facebook?
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Here from my personal real life experience my doctor had absolutely nothing to do with my vaccine shot. I got the first one as soon as I could and got the 6 month booster. I live in a small town of 10K and we had at least 4 locations to get the vaccine of your choice. I honestly can't even remember when the last time my doctor had anything to do with a vaccine shot of any kind here. Maybe when I was a little kid in the 70s. |
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