Liveauctioneers.com - Multiple Fake Auctions

[Exhibitman]

"If you're not cheating, you're not trying"--Jim Rome.

That's a really clever shill technique. Run two auctions, jack one up to build excitement, and wait for the marks to jump on the real one.

[rjackson44]

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

"If you're not cheating, you're not trying"--Jim Rome.

That's a really clever shill technique. Run two auctions, jack one up to build excitement, and wait for the marks to jump on the real one.

Agree adam 100 pct

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Doug, While you're at it. Last I knew Hibid still allowed auctions to see bidders high (proxy) bids. No potential for abuse there... We used Hibid for a little while when we started. It freaked me out.

[Jobu]

As a side note/warning for people --- Live Auctioneers is really just a platform - you are making your agreement with the auction house itself so always read their terms very carefully. I know someone who got majorly hosed by a shady AH on there and Live Auctioneers didn't do anything (and have no ability to). So then you may be left to decide whether legal action against a fraud on the other side of the country is worth the cost and the hassle.

[doug.goodman]

Well, no response to my "bullshit" email, not that I expect one, but the item in question is up for auction again, eliciting a new email to LiveAuctioneers from me :

"Well, that didn’t take long :

https://www.liveauctioneers.com/item...m_content=item

This is the item that we have been discussing. Earlier in the email chain I said : I'm of the opinion that the company that sold it (which is evidently two "related" companies) still has the item and we will be seeing it for sale again at some point in the future.

I have highlighted that part of our conversation in yellow below.

So now I will await your reasoning (aka excuse) to justify a user of your site ripping off your customers.

Let me guess… there seem to be two potential answers :

1 – The new owner, the winner of lot #7004 in the March 25 Pacific Global auction (not to be confused with item #0094 in the March 23 Three Kings auction) has decided to sell the item he won less than a month ago for less than what he paid for it, because, why not? I hope that Golden Gate Auctioneer does well for him.

OR

2 – The owner of unsold lot #0094 in the March 23 Three Kings auction (not to be confused with lot #7004 in the March 25 Pacific Global auction) has decided to try again this time using Golden Gate Auctioneer who are conveniently located in the same building as Three Kings. Another “related” company I suppose.

Three Kings Auction, 1732 Aviation Blvd, Redondo Beach, CA 90278, (323) 510-6312
Pacific Global Auction, 46 Peninsula Center, Rolling Hills Estates, CA 90274, (323) 510-6312
Golden Gate Auctioneer, 1732 Aviation Blvd, Redondo Beach, CA 90278, (323) 510-6312

Take care,
Doug"

[jnorlund]

I contacted them about Mynt auctions having all of their stuff on ebay for BIN who then told me they use "Virtual Consignment" - which means that most of their auctions have hidden reserves trying to get some sucker to bid above the Buy it Now price on other sites like ebay where they are listed at the same time.

Liveauctioneers response? "We recommend reaching out to ebay".

These jokers along with Pristine auctions should be run out of the industry.

[Casey2296]

Originally Posted by jnorlund

I contacted them about Mynt auctions having all of their stuff on ebay for BIN who then told me they use "Virtual Consignment" - which means that most of their auctions have hidden reserves trying to get some sucker to bid above the Buy it Now price on other sites like ebay where they are listed at the same time.

Liveauctioneers response? "We recommend reaching out to ebay".

These jokers along with Pristine auctions should be run out of the industry.

They should really rebrand and just say "hey, here's some cool stuff that other folks are auctioning off".